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Think Mido was season or so before. Dawson was the season we went down we tried getting both of them and they went to Spurs instead. Dawson was just what we needed.

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/9970183.Mystery_over_Saints__loan__from_tax_haven_company/ Good to see SISA commenting on the loan. Do they still exist?

Having already lost to Wigan that is one should win game already gone. We probably need 10 wins at home and then try to pick up 10 points away. I would say today is absolutely one that we should be winning as we will do well to get a point against Spurs in our next one. If we don't win today it's one win from our first five home games and we'd probably then need to win nine from our next fourteen.

I fully agree. Fulham are nothing special and it's these sort of games you look back on at the end of the season if you do go down as ones where we should have picked up points.

I was at Craven Cottage when they beat us 2-1 under Strachan, so that is wrong.

Sorry, perhaps you can explain where there is any negatively and trolling on this thread?

What is unbelievable is idiots ruining threads by telling everyone they don't want to read what is on a thread when it's quite evident what that thread is about. As has been mentioned several times, it's quite clear what this thread is about, it it doesn't interest you don't read it and don't commented it telling everyone how it doesn't interest you.

As I mentioned above Bayern Munich aren't trying to entice new fans by cheaper prices, they are the biggest and best supported team in Germany and German football is booming at the moment. Why they do it I don't know but it seems to bethe norm in Germany for ticket prices to be much lower than here. The only way it would work for us it absolutely gurantee every one of your new, lower priced tickets went to people that can't afford it at the moment and 'brand new customers only' can you imagine the uproar if Saints suddenly introduced £300 season tickets for new fans whilst existing fans still have to pay what they pay at the moment? I for one would tell the club where to stick their season ticket if that happened.

Anyone know if they've been paid yet so can get on with the job?

So to summarise your idea, we build 8,000 seats at a cost of c£20m, which we sell at a cheaper price but with no way of knowing who will buy them. We need to Hope everyone of the new, cheap seats go to new fans and not existing fans taking advantage of the cheaper price. should disaster happen and the current fanbase decided they wanted to pay less and who could blame them so they snap up the cheap tickets we'd be exactly where we are now with tickets too expensive for most and all current matchgoers snapping up the cheap tickets. Theys be paying less, the fans we want to entice still can't afford it and we've given ourselves millions of debt for seats that remain empty. So actually expansion could well mean a decrease in revenue and an increase is debt. I can see why you think a superb businessman like Cortese wouldn't go for it to be honest.

I'm open to ideas I just don't see how you could stop existing season ticket holders buying the slashed, I mean reduced tickets and leaving their current seats empty which would be at the same price and still too expensive for those you say can afford it now. Perhaps you could explain.

An ingenious idea Frankie boy, but what's to stop existing season ticket holders just buying up the cheaper season tickets? I know I would, if I could get a season ticket £200 cheaper for the same product I'd do my upmost to get one. Then you'll have 8,000 existing season ticket holders sitting in the cheaper areas and their seats empty which are already too expensive for the ones you are hoping to attract by cheaper prices. So we have crowds of 30,000 still, just 8,000 are paying £200 a season less than they were before. So you're going to have to restrict those cheaper seats to 'brand new customers only' - that's going to go down well!!! As for following the Bayern Munich model, well there is a small difficulty with this in that Bayern Munich aren't trying to offer cheap tickets to attract fans they don't have. They are already the biggest club in Germany and a giant of European football, they played in last season champions league final which they also hosted. They aren't looking at getting into millions of pounds worth of debt to attract new fans with cheaper prices. They are in one of the largest and most visited cities in Germany and one of the most successful football clubs in the world. Southampton isnt. Other than all of that I think it's a great idea and would work easily.

So it would be ridiculous to say 'slashing pricing' but quite right to say offering reduced and in some cases substantially reduced prices, okay then. So I'm strill struggling with your business plan, please explain how there is a buiness case for the great businessman We are told Cortese is to spend £15-£20m to build the extension, then slash, sorry I mean dramatically reduce, the prices to sell them, when he isn't doing that for ones we can't sell right now and has done that at no time in the past. Not when we were getting 25k in the champion, 21k in league one and not now when we are only selling 2-3,000 match day tickets to home fans.

Reading & Swansea. Two teams we should beat.

Where have I complained we haven't sold every ticket?

I agree. We should just congratulate ourselves every week as to how great our attendance is, whatever it is. If we sell out that is amazing, if we don't it's still amazing to get 28,000 fans. This means the club have done an incredible job of sellinga massive 3,000 tickets to non season ticket holders and away fans. It's an incredible achievement to do such a thing.

Err, I'm a season ticket holder thanks. And it was quite obvious from the title what the thread was about, if you find it boring don't read it, it ain't difficult.

It wasn't me that said it was going to.

Probably too late, just like QPR.

"Julio Ceaser is a fantastic goalkeeper by the way' MLT 6th October.

That's the problem. A lot of our fans are doing just that. A lot are too naive or too blind to question anything done at the club and if anyone dares to they are pounced on as being anti club or anti chairman and wanting the club to fail. A lot are just skipping to games grateful we've got a club to support and reminding themselves of where we were 3 years ago. Yes we've come along way, yes things have been good but that doesn't mean we have to blindly accept and naively applaud everything the club does as being fantastic, when in reality some of it hasnt been.

Maybe you can help me with this because many seems to think this is a great idea and makes sense. However we keep being told Cortese is a great businessman so would a great businessman think its great business to spend £20m on an expansion and then reduce to price when we can't sell the tickets we have at the already reasonably priced cost? If people were saying Cortese will do it because he's a great guy, loves the fans and wants as many of us to see South Coast super club as cheaply as possible then I'd get it, but they don't, they say He's a great businessman.

Considering there were few complaints about the prices when they were announced, apart from family tickets which is another story, it isn't price. For example my season ticket first season at SMS was £450, this season it was £575, that's only an increaseof £12 per season since 2001, so it isn't price for the man on the street, after all we were told in the summer we live in an affluent area and people will be falling over each other to get here to see premier league football, this included a lot of Pompey fans as well as the casual ones from Sevenoaks, Gloucester, Shepton Mallett and ilfracombe tht just want to see premier league football and/or were looking for a Premer league team to support. I understand our ticket prices are around the midtable for premier league clubs, so I would say overall the clb have got it right. As for corporates, well from what I understand a crap product and service, high price, a succession of 'failed' sponsorship managers and poor relationships with local businesses are all to blame. Both I'd say in summary.

What are you on about? Danny Inngs is not a premier league player FFS