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Which is exactly what else Dell sized mentality posters have been saying. Not inventing catchment areas and speculating on how many Pompey fans will become Saints fans or how many people in Cirencester will come to St Mary's to get their fix of premier league football. It's the self titled intelligent posters coming out with all this nonsense and speculation.

How could you forget Imants Bledielis, especially after his stunning 45 minute role in our 3-4 loss away at Tranmere in 2001.

An excellent article. "it's undignified, Bufoonish and reeks of David Brent style wackiness" couldn't have put it better myself. Summed up nicely in the final paragraph, "Taking pride in your appearance when in public is a practise worth maintaining"

Let's hope "at least 2" is the tip of the iceberg as your dreams of a massively expanded stadium full of casual fans coming for their premier league fix is going to be nothing more than a pipe dream isn't is.

Yu need to look up contradict in the dictionary sunshine. I've never said we shouldnt expand, I've never said we will never be able to grow as a club. I have always said that we should do so only when there is concrete evidence we can sell extra tickets regularly by having a couple of seasons of sell outs first. not by slashing the prices and hoping causal fans Warick and train full of converted Pompey fans will take them for us or by relying in some mythical catchment areas which includes Portsmouth. A catchment area the has always been there but for the last 126 years of our history has never bothered before. It's only now they are going to bother in their thousands, only now. Not when they needed a premier league fix in 2003, only now.

You dirty Catalan Bastardos we're coming for you.

I'm still waiting for people to name and shame all these Saints fans that became Pompey fans between 2005-2009 when the roles were reversed and if anyone spotted the trains full of Saints fans heading to Frattton Park from central every Saturday. Surely if Pompey fans are going to convert now we are in the Premeir League the exact same must have happened when things were the other way round.

I know, it's odd isn't it. You'd think people would be mature enough and sensible enough to be able to discuss points on an Internet forum without getting all upset. It's sad isn't it.

As I've said numerous times, I think we could potentially fill a 40k stadium, maybe a bit more for the big games. I think it would be sensible to give it a season or two in the premier league first though to see if we sell out ever week and that the demand is there. You know, factual evidence that the demand is there, like 19 sell outs, like turning people away. Like thousands of fans sitting in pubs or going shopping with their birds on a Saturday gutted they can't be at the football. waiting lists for season tickets and ballots for tickets for big games. You know, a waiting list, like Spurs have of 15,000 and ballots for games, solid proof their ground isn't big enough for them, something we've never ever had, despite our MASSIVE catchment area. I'd rather we have this sort of factual evidence rather than chucking 12,000 seats on now at a cost of £20m or so and then hoping that train loads of Pompey fans decide to convert and come across every Saturday and coach loads of premier league football fans are jamming up the M3, A34 and M27 every Saturday as they come from Chobham, Warwick, Weymouth, Yeovil, Hastings, Gravesend and Truro to get their fix of live premier league football. Or better still and I'm amazed anyone with half an ounce of common sense takes this seriously, Spend £20m expanding and then slash all the prices so we can fill the stadium. I really don't understand how anyone can see that this idea is anything less than idiotic.

I love it when people Start going on about factual evidence. There is factual evidence we've never sold new than 32,400 ticket for a home game There is factual evidence that we've average at least 6,000 below capacity for the last 7 years There is factual evidence that even on our most successful period in the early 80s we rarely sold out and out highest crowd was well below capacity. So where is th factual evidence need to expand? Where is the factual evidence that train loads of Pompey fans will be heading was to SMS this season? Where is th factual evidence that causal fans in Basingstoke, Weymouth, Cirencester and Ilfracombe will come to southampton to see premier league football?

I think you'll find Millwall took 49,000. Maybe they could have taken more, who knows?

I love the way people use out 50k or so at the JPT final as some sort of bench mark to our massiveness. Millwall and Luton have also both taken similar sized numbers to wembley in recent years. Don't see their fans demanding bigger stadiums and champions league football.

I hope Cortese has some flexible pricing innovations up his sleeve to win back all those fans we lost to Pompey between 2005-09 when we were sh*t and they were in the premier league.

Are you seriously suggesting that any of the 16,000 or so skates that were at Fratton Park in December chanting about how much they hate scummers are going to start coming to St Mary's? It's one thing to start going regularly from watching your local lower/non league side and even then what sort of crowds did Newport get? 4-5k at a guess? And deciding you want to go see Cardiff in the championship instead to expecting Pompey fans to become Saints fans and come to St Mary's. I honestly can't believe people are seriously considering this as a possibility. Let me spell is out for you, they f*cking hate us. They f*cking despise anything from Southampton. Anyone that thinks there are train loads of Portsmouth born football fans counting down the days until they can attend st Marys to watch premier league football is not living in the real world and is f*cking mental.

What do you class as a "floating fan" and what areas are you referring to? As someone that worked in Basingoke during our 2002-03 season in a company of 500 i can confirm that literally one or two fans of other clubs made the journey to SMS that season such was their desperation to part with £60 plus back then for their premier league fix.

So we're right then and catchment area is largely irrelevant Just more local people will make the effort to go to the big games, yes?

I don't disagree. I find it odd that so many people think there are these thousands of people living in Weymouth, Guildford, Hastings and Shepton Mallet just waiting to spend £100+ on a Saturday to watch a team they aren't really interested in just so they can get their fix of premier league football. These people that in our seven year absence haven't done just that but with other clubs and have now formed an alligence to them. No, all these people have been waiting for Southampton to make it back to the premier league so they can spend their money there. It makes no sense at all.

So not thousands, hundreds at a push, possibly tens. So that's about 50 of the new seats covered only 11,950 to fill.

Im not in my late 30s Timothy...... I've asked some valid questions applying the dynamic pricing policy you used, your example. It seems you're struggling to back up your claims and also why Cotese has thus far refused to do "deals". I'm not surprised you cant answer them, it's no slight on you, i'd struggle to justify how it could work if it was my suggestion.

Which goes against what people have been saying about people in Portsmouth and other areas switching teams and becoming Saints fans. And back to it again. West Ham did groupon deals last season, so rules did allow him too, he chose not to. Why is that going to change?

Sounds like a get out to me. Typical response, cant think of an answer so accuse of trolling.

Course you can be an idiot and not clueless. Prehaps the wrong choice of word though, i meant a pr*ck, a bell end a c*ck. A bit of a helmet as a bloke, or at least that's how he comes across. HTH.

But you said start prices for Man U at £50 and then reduce them if they couldn't sell. Then reduce them again and again. Norwich you were on about starting low and putting up. Again, i cant see people being too chuffed sitting next to someone who had paid £20 for a ticket when theyve paid £40, in fact i cant see too many people paying £40+ to see Saints v Norwich. West Ham were doing groupon deals last season, doing deals isn't new, it just seems Cortese isn't keen to slash prices. What makes you think that is going to change?

You said you wondered how playing behind a scottish teams back for can compare with strikers in the Premier league, im saying it didn't seem to be a problem for Niemi. HTH.

So say we sell tickets for Man United at £50 in our new 45,000 seater stadium. We sell 10,000 tickets at that price. So we reduce them to £40 we sell another 15,000 at that price then we reduce them to £30 and sell a few more. On the day of the game there are 2,000 left that we knock out at £15 each to get bums on seats. a few questions 1/ How do you p*ssed off do you think the fans will be that paid the higher price for the same tickets? 2/ What is to stop fans getting used to this and just not buying tickets at the inflated price and waiting until they drop? Leading to chaos at the ticket office with everyone waiting until the final week price drops before buying their seats. 3/ What is the benefit of having a season ticket when fans that decide at the last minute to go can buy tickets at fraction of the price you pay pro rata. 4/ Why hasn't Cortese used "dynamic pricing" to fill the average 8,000 seats we have left every week last season. He doesn't seem like the sort of guy who is in the habit of selling things off cheap. I appreciate dynamic pricing works the other way as well and pricing could go up, but do you really think you're going to have many takers paying £40-50 to watch Saints v Norwich or West Brom?