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/\ so are you saying black people are wrong for wanting to celebrate their history and culture?

What are your views on the black player awards saintandy?

An amazing woman. I don't know what it is about her, she does it for me in a big way.

I still live at home with my parents. I spend most of my time in my bedroom posting on here and masterbating to youtube clips of Suzannah Reid on BBC Breakfast.

I like it when we score on the stroke of half time when all the gutty cu*nts that cant go 45 minutes without eating and drinking are down stairs filling their faces rather than watching the game.

Why is it pathetic and desperate?

Good post saint bletch but IMO they are unhelpful. I've mentioned the very powerful Sky advert a couple of times now, what do you see a skin colour, a nationality or a footballer? This totally contradicts this and the anti racism ethos that says everyone is the same regardless of skin colour. Its saying "look at him, he's black, look what he's achieved" this is wrong. What's wrong with "he's a footballer, look what he's achieved" skin colour matters when it suits and shouldnt matter when it doesn't it seems.

I have no idea I didn't support them. I just saw a 10 minute slot on football focus a couple of weeks or so about it and how fantastic it is and we should all celebrate the the contribution black players are making to the game. Yet this week many of the same people making these grand declarations are saying how disgraceful it is to judge someone on their colour and everyone is equal.

Funny you should edit my post to that. As a kid when he was cool people say I did look a bit like him.

:lol::lol: Comedy post of the year!!

It's funny isn't it. If This was a discussion about White people segregating themselves And being self inclusive the usual suspects would be all over this thread wanting public hangings and executions, verbal Would be taking the skin off his tubby little fingers angrily Thumping his keyboard at the subconscious racism taking place. yet none of them are to be anywhere to be seen. I find it incredible that anyone can support these awards, given the fact we are told not to base anything on the colour of people's skin. Yet not one of our racial guardians is prepared to condemn these awards and speak out against them. It's strange to say the least. BTF and Verbal have both piped up on this thread but neither appear to be able to form An opinion on the isue in question, which is odd for two posters who usually are quick to Condemn when it suits.

Seriously? I can't think of at least 10 that don't have the hype these boring clowns do. I think that says it all about modern music though. Safe, bland and dull. Give me the inventiveness of the stone roses the dark humour of the smiths or the pure f*ck offness of the pistols or te clash anyday over that nonsense.

Think Jason Statham mate, you're almost there.

Absolutely this forum is a serious business. Your thoughts?

You are quite boring Adriansfc but your points are well Made, albeit longwinded. It all goes back to the point though that we have be told and had it drummed into us for year and years not to see a colour but to see a person and I quite agree with that. Yet we have only WEEKS later the same people praising the achievement of ppeople due to their colour I find that highly hypocritical. I an just amazed Verbal, as the moderator of equality has not leapt to back me up. It's slightly strange considering he is so quick to appear when a race related issue is raised on here.

Stop making petty digs at Dune. Are you Condeming or supporting award ceremonies based purely on people's skin colour? Are you as someone, like myself, who sees people not skin colour prepared to call Paul Elliot and Mark Bright hypocrites for supporting awards based in skin colour yet at the same time preaching skin colour should not be an issue and we shouldn't discriminate or segregate based on skin colour?

Forget what went on in Ghana and Kenya 59 years ago. It is correct in 2011 Britain to have an awards ceremony based soley on the colour of peoples skin?

It's no wonder with a name like that.

I didnt' see too many league two players up their collecting their awards. And regardless of if there were a minority or not, the emphasis is on skin colour. When we are constantly and rightly told skin colour doesn't matter.

Where are Verbal, BTF, Saintsandy666, Joneus and Super Mikey? They usually have plenty to say when it comes to race related issues.

So do you agree or not that it is hypocritical for people like Paul Elliott on the one hand to support award ceremonies that focus on skin colour then to tell people that skin colour shouldn't be an issue when it suits their crusade? Do you agree or not that we should see people, not skin colours and awards celebrating achievements based on skin colour is focusing on skin colour not that they are people who are no better or worse than someone of another skin colour?

It's not really a lie, because just like i've met hundreds of people who know a Richard Head but never met one, i've met hundreds of people that know a Wayne King, i've just never met one.

No. I dont really know a bloke called Wayne King, but i am sure someone does.

So you agree then that these awards are wrong? If it is correct how can Paul Elliott and Mark Bright support the black players award one week, then the following week say that we shouldn't discriminate and differentiate based on skin colour? Is that not hypocritical? And your further point is correct. But if white players got together and announced a whites only player award to celebreate white peoples contrbution to football, there would be outrage. I expect Paul Elliott and Mark Bright would be the ones shouting the loudest.

I know a bloke called Wayne King, lol, PMSL, FAF etc etc