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Best get back on with your 4,000th paintshop pretend saints kit mock ups then.

aren't Kasabian touring at the moment?

What really concearns me about this song as it appears that the child is a victim of abuse from it parents/guardian. "wash your mouth out son (child)", what's all that about? Is he being bullied into supporting Southampton? Surely loving caring parents/guardians would present the evidence to their child for both scenarios of which team to support and enable them to make an informed decision for themselves, should such a decison need to be made of course.

The whole song is questionable. "i asked my mother" What about those children whose mother is no longer around for what ever reason? What about orphans? This song also promotes murder and the use of firearms, For one i hope the fathers gun is licenced and secondly no wonder there are so many wannabe gangsters with blaze attitudes to gun crime around when the use of firearms is percieved as cool inside football stadiums.

/\ i think Norwich bid for him, but P'Boro wanted £3m for him.

I'll be spending most of my time on here mocking people who think current England internationals are queuing up to sign for us.

I agree with this, the last thing we want to do is dismiss people from areas of Southampton and the surrounding areas. We shouldn't sing "I come from Southampton, the pride of the South" either because as pointed out on another thread, we have a large percentage of fans who come from outside of the city boundaries and this is dismissive of them. I think we should drop "OWTHSGMI" as well, Saints were catholics and surely this song alienates any believers of other religions in our fan base, some people, particularly C of E, Muslims and Jews might even find it offensive and we most definitely dont want to do that.

It could be worse, we could have either of these songs to enjoy. The Hull thing is probably the gayist thing i've ever seen inside a football stadium, whilst Villas is just plain awful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gmReDmRCjg

Julian

I agree, i think it'd be really cool to sing that, Nigel would love it to and we can do it to show him how much we appreciate him and how funny his interviews are. Maybe next season we could have a themes fancy dress day as well with everyone dressing up as bus conductors to honour Nige? I think when opposition fans hear us singing it and then work out what it's about they'll be rolling round in the aisles with laughter at our wit and good humour.

not at all embarassing either. FFS.

Just as well we only need him for the championship, where has been prolific over his career.

Plus the areas around Southampton are not as densely populated, Southampton really only has Winchester, Eastleigh and parts of Fareham as other towns in our catchment area of any note, none of them are particularly big. Newcastle, although being only slightly larger than Southampton as a city itself has Gateshead, South Shields etc which are large densley populated areas. Leeds is a large city and has Wakefield next door which is a very large town and a Leeds strong hold. In fact most northern and midlands clubs have large towns near them to draw support from, although it terms of size might be quite a big area, in terms of population it's probably not that great, plus the area isn't exactly renowned for its passion in football.

Fris-Hansen whoo whoo He doesn't come from Italy we've no first hand factual evidence he f'cking hates Pompey

You cant just base it on the size of the ground. As mentioned Spurs only get 36k because that is all their capacity will allow, that is also Arsenal got whilst at Highbury, they now get 60k a week. Chelsea would sell that many as well. Newcastle are one of the biggest clubs in the country but you could argue that about any club in the top 10, if Everton, Leeds or Aston Villa had recieved the investment chelsea had would they now be bigger? Chelsea have a massive fan base, particularly in the home counties and are now a worldwide brand. They have always, apart from a period in the early 80's where they struggled, been seen as a very big club. They were always considered Londons glamour club and also attract a very wealthy fanbase, i think a recent survery showed Chelsea have more fans earning over £50k a year than any other club. Also for the record Chelseas record attendance is over 80,000 whereas Newcastles is just over 60k. They are not miles apart but I dont think there can be any arguement over which club is bigger, potentially or otherwise.

Would Joey Barton, Nile Ranger etc consider it a step up career wise to join Chelsea?

That'll be the A-Z thread about Anders Svenson A - Arguement, what Anders Svenson might have with his girlfriend if she came home from the shops with full fat milk when he had asked for semi skimmed B - Beach, where Anders Svenson might spend quite a bit of time if he was to go on a caribean all inclusive holiday C - Christmas - what Anders Svenson would celebrate on the 25th of December along with most of the western world... and so it goes on....

/\ Proximity wise it should be Millwall, but they are more interested in West Ham and other London clubs with more of a reputation. Charlton and Palace hate each other though. Brighton and Palace goes back to the mid 70's when they started hating each other, something to do with an FA Cup game IIRC.

100% this. Exactly in the same boat as you, just going to enjoy playing in the championship. IMO the best league there is. Much more of an even playing field and so many good, proper football clubs in it.

It's a shame Darren Ferguson is such a bellend, Posh has some good players and play some great football.

what happened to Joe Lewis? LEft at half time 1-0 up come back and Posh are 3-1, Lewis off with some joker in goal.

Dont forget there are a few on here who have probably taken Saints to the champions league on FM11, so it is possible.

And Ajax are the biggest club in Holland a country renowned for producing great footballers, they have the pick of the best young dutch players. Lyon are a regular champions league knock out stage team and one of Frances biggest clubs. Both of them end up selling their players on to the bigger clubs in Europe after a couple of seasons. I agree with you, i can see us being an established mid table club who can maybe push for a Euro league slot or a cup win if we are lucky but anyone who thinks we are going to be a regular champions league side is seriously deluded. People like MLG keep saying why cant we, Well can someone please explain why we can and give examples of others who have consitantly been top 4 without spending big. Not half arsed facts like Arsenal haven't spent hundreds of millions and Chelsea had smaller attendances than us 20 years ago. How does a club like Southampton become a champions league side and if it's as easy as getting a few decent young players together, why isn't everyone doing it?

A good academy you say? To be a consistant top 4 club you are talking about a team of some of the worlds best players coming through the academy, all coming through at the same time, like they did at Barcelona, one of the biggest clubs in the world. Like they did at Man United in the 90's with Beckham, Scholes, Giggs etc. To a lesser extent what Arsenal have done now but without the honours. How likely do you think it is for a club like Saints to have the best young players in the world, all coming through the ranks at the same time? All staying and wanting to play for SFC and no one else when only two of the worlds biggest clubs have managed this with success in terms on honours in the last 20 years? You are talking about developing a team of the standard of Beckham, Scholes, Bale etc all coming through the ranks at the same time. There are no room for David McGoldricks in a champions league club academy. You use the example of Everton, Everton had one great season and have done little since. They've had some good young players, but what happened when the best one came through their ranks? Oh thats right, he couldn't wait to join Man United, despite being an Everton fan. A good manager you say. Although it pains me to say it, look what happened when the current best English manager around realised he had done all he could down the road, he couldn't wait to get to Tottenham. Aston Villa, doing well, looking at a regular top 6 finish, Milner and Barry couldn't get to Man City quick enough when they got the call. O'Neill quits because of it. If you really think being a champions league club is as simple as getting a decent academy and bringing a load of young players in and decent manager, paying them all a relatively moderate wage and they'll all be up for it to fullfill the chairmans vision then why isn't every club doing it?

I am all for aiming high but this has to be tempered with realism. This week people are talking about signing current England internationals and players that 3 or 4 years ago were one of the best strikers in the world, champions league football and expanding the stadium. Just over a week ago we were a league one club with 10,000 empty seats every week. Talk of the champions league and signing the likes of Micheal Owen is utter, utter madness, fans of other clubs would think we were mental if they came on here and read some of these posts. It's cost Man City, who were an established PL club before they has major money, £300m to get there and to win their first trophy in 30 years. We are a long way away from being an establish PL club and a million miles away from a champions league club. People need to stop getting themselves at it and be a bit more realistic.