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no it wasn't, he went to Coventry after we failed to win promotion to the PL under Burley so no irony at all. Good luck to the lad. people on here seem to take delight in slating him for probably the unluckiest own goal you'll ever see.

well if i accepted everyones view point on here then every player is either sh*t or should be playing in the premier league and Saints are in crisis one minute and the greatest club in the world the next.

no i was at the Brentford game as well and yes he was awful, as was everybody else.

and Tranmere and away at Yeovil.

Well i am not contradicting myself am i. YOu were going on about 40 drunks in the northam, well i am saying in two seperate parts of the ground and away on monday "fans" have barracked the usual players for very little, in fact on one occasions the supposedly slow, awful and over the hill Jaidi made the right decision rather than hoofing the ball out of play. so we have these ignorant dinlows all over the stadium. Or maybe i am just unluckily and have sat near the 1% at every game i have been at in the last 2weeks? It must just be me that sees the irony in the fact that so many of our "sh*t" former players are still playing at a higher level while we are in league one. Seem my comment above re Gully.

yet another one missing the point. As i said, for all his critics and there have been many, he has scored important goals or made an important contribution in the last 3 games, he might not have been great for 90 minutes but when it mattered he made the difference. As for your laughable speculation that Barnard would have buried 2 of Gullys chances, what about the one on one Barnard missed against Exeter, in that case Would Gully have buried that one since he scored a more difficult chance against Dagenham?

as i said Jamie, if he scores an average of a goal a game for the rest of the season, he can be sh*t for 89 minutes for all i care. Not that he has been mind, well at least not everyone thinks that.

I think you are in the wrong place mate, you aren't allowed to praise players on here.

I am not imply that, what i am saying is, if you read the earlier posts that all these players who our fans said were sh*t, the boo boys of the crowd, clearly aren't as they are now all playing at a higher level. And it isn't just a few drunken idiots who get on out players backs at the slightest thing. In the itchen against Hudderfield, depsite being 4-1 up against one of our main promotion rivals so bloke was screaming his head off at Gully to get it together. I sat in the Kingsland for Exeter and some dinlows were constantly on Seabournes back. At Daggenham some idiot in front of me was screaming at Jaidi for passing the ball back to Kevlin Davis when under pressure, he'd prefer humping it out for a throw in than possesion football. 3 games, 3 wins, 3 seperate parts of the ground, 3 seperate people getting on the players backs for no reason at all other than a lack of understanding of the game. As for your posts about Gully not being all that, his last 3 games, 3 goals, two assists. If he averages that over the rest of the season i dont care if he is poor for 70 minutes. A certain Matthew Le Tissler wasn't brilliant for 90 minutes every game.

lol! Have a day off, you could hear the groans everytime Fuller got the ball from Basingstoke. Same with puncheon, he was slagged off after every game on here. 2. How you can compare Jason Dodd with those two is laughable. A club legend who played for us for most of his career or a couple of average players who lasted a season. I am not saying we haven't had our fair share of bad players, but its as equally funny and annoying at the amount of jip some of our players get who then go onto better things. And even you have to admit there are plenty of them.

Well they were all sh*t for us and all doing okay at a higher level so it must mean that all the other players around them must be amazing. Was Delap really sh*t for us or is it more that fans didn't take to him because he wasn't Maradona. He was a hard working, industrious, energetic player in midfield, ironically what some were moaning about the other day that we need. I have to admit i didn't rate him as a right back but even so was he really as bad as everyone seems to think? Stoke dont think so. But considering you think him and Telfer, 2 of our 5 midfielders from our cup final season who played regularly were sh*t (i seem to remember people saying Oakley and Svenson were sh*t as well at the time so the only good one we had was Marsden) its a wonder we finished where we did.

and for all the idiots who are critising on him for that own goal, that was an absolute freak that if he did that 1,000,000 other times would never happen, unfortunately the timing of it cost us promotion. Hardly his fault.

lol another one our fans dont think is good enough for us wanted at a higher level.

err, yes you did. "just shows that shyt players do OK when surrounded by very good ones..." Delap and co seem to be doing very nicely thank you in teams not as good as the ones they played in when they were apparantly so sh*t.

So you are saying that all the players that left us and are now playing at a higher level are now surrounded by world beaters who made them look good? Okay then! Is the Blackpool side containing Crainey and Ormerod better than our cup final side? Or for that matter the current Stoke team which Delap plays in. And your point about Telfer is exactly what i'd expect on here, he is a good player because he was steady. The sort of player every team needs to allow the players with skill to perform. A 6 out of 10 consistant rather than a 9 one week and a 4 the next.

what has that got to do with anything? The fans loved Killer, he wasn't slagged off in the stand and on here left and went onto prove everyone wrong and where is Traore now? Not playing for Man Utd or Barcelona, or Inter Milan,or another current champions league winner. He is playing for Monaco, so his career has quite rightly gone down hill.

Regardless of how he got there he still played at a higher level and Strachan deemed him good enough to sign him 3 times and play for one of the biggest clubs in Europe. Not good enough for us though.

maybe not, but he still played at a higher level after leaving us and was the boo boy of the crowd for a while, underservedly IMO, every team needs a Paul Telfer type player.

lol, worth over a million? He was sh*t only a month ago according to you lot.

the blokes that sat round me didn't and the i would say this board wasn't his biggest fan either.

I am not saying he wasn't the best, but you cant judge one player you "support" and see every week with one you've only seen a handful of times, your view will always be biased. It was like the "Beattie for England" campaign, no way was Beattie an international player, but because he was one of ours many though he was, a biased view. And these people that say we should get shot of Hammond and sign xxxx player, who they may have seen play once and think based on that one game he is the answer to our supposed midfield problems. i am sure if you asked Peterborough fans who saw Hammonds performance again them if they'd sign him they'd bite your hand off. The other point Is quite simple, St Marys obviously isn't the grave yard of promsing careers. In fact i recomend it for any young player with a bit of an ego as they'll all be torn apart and brought back down to earth. what have all the following players got in common? Delap, Blackstock, Higginbotham, Jones, Telfer, Fuller, Stephen Crainey, Ormerod, Kevin Davies, Euell, & Puncheon. Answer, they were all the whipping boys of the crowd and deemed by our fans not good enough for us yet are all playing or played at a higher level after leaving, in Telfers case the champions league. This cant be because all of these players are sh*t, they obviously aren't, but maybe our fans dont know as much as they like to think they do.

Of course you are totally unbiased about Niemi aren't you, what about Fridel, Van Der Saar,Jens Lehman, Paul Robinson? Not bad that season, but we didn't see them every week so difficult to make the bold statement he was the best goalkeeper in the country. Kevin Davies wasn't a "top player" when we signed him the first time, he was a young striker with one years top flight exeperience when he went to Blackburn, second time round the fans were on his back all the time. I remember on here constant posts about how he had been seen out drinking and why was he doing this when he was so sh*t for us. And as for Beattie, well he was never and England player in the first place and i am not saying that in hindsight, i said it at the time I can fully except some players do well at some clubs and not at another, but it cant just be coincidence that so many players slated by the fans on here and on a match day leave and go onto better things and playing at a higher level when we have sunk like a stone. What other club have so many ex players, deemed not good enough by our fans playing in the championship and premier league? It was also under a succession of managers, chairman, coaches etc, they cant all have a Puncheon like attitude problem or all want to move back up north. The only common denominator is the fans.

Leave it out, the fans used to slag Jones off all the time when he was here! Another one whose stock has risen dramatically since he left when fans said he was sh*t when he was here.

lol, Kevin davies has really flopped hasn't he! I guess you missed the fact he recently played for England and has played top flight football ever since he first signed for us in 1997, not bad for a flop that. Beattie hardly flopped at Stoke & Sheff Utd and was recently playing in the champions league for Rangers. Again Niemi was hardly a flop at Fulham was he where he finished his career due to injury. It amuses me all these players that our fans think are sh*t and have left would probably have the makings of at least a midtable championship side and are playing at a higher level and as for your comment about Blackstock i wouldn't mind having a "nothing special" Dexter Blackstock playing up front for us right now.

Best wasn't good enough for us, just like Delap, Blackstock, puncheon, Higgingbotham, Jones, Fuller the list goes on. Yet all these players are playing in leagues above the one we are in. It cant just be conincidence that so many players fail to perform for Saints and then go onto better things. Every player we have has been slagged off this season on here and inside SMS, even when we were winning 4-1 against Huddersfield dinlows were shouting "come on, get a grip" Honestly, some of our fans are complete divs.