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You're right i would be. BTW, if you are p*ssed up on NYE and writting on an internet forum "is life really all that" they maybe you are deluding yourself and you are as depressing in real life as you are on here?

Collective responsibility i think. I didn't go today so cant comment on the overall performance but by all accounts it sounds like we were complacent at first. The manager can only do so much, once the players take to the pitch its down to them.

If you read this thread i am not "coming round" at all, my arguement has alwasy been if we add two or three good players then brilliant, but signing cover players just to play when the first choice is injured is not the answer. I've always said we need 20-24 good players who we can use to adapt formation, tactics, players etc depending on the opposition. And as i said above we didn't lose today because of "exhibit a" the team we had out should have been easliy good enough to see off Tranmere, it was because of individual errors and Tranmere wanting it more, that is unacceptable, it doesn't matter how strong the bench is, if that attitude is wrong you will fail.

Not even be positve, postive, positive, just stop being such a pansy. If anyone i know started bleating on about how sh*t their lives are they would be told to stop being so self indulgent, pull themselves together and sort it out, i'd expect the same to be said to myself if i ever did such a thing. Maybe thats the wrong thing to say in this lilly livered, lets talk about our emotions culture that has been created over the last 20 years,, but f*ck it, people need to man up. In answer to your OP though, just avoid them, tell them they bore the sh*t out of you. Although maybe you could instigate some "it life really all that" debates and see what they have to say about it? I am sure they'd probably agree with you.

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We agree on something my chunky friend, lets put out the bunting!!! Any player, no matter how good that misses a game because of their "mental state" is a c*nt and should be got shot off at the earliest opportunity. If they cant hack a midseason game at Tranmere how are they going to cope with the pressure of having to win a game to secure a title or promotion?

An internet forum, especially a male dominated football forum, is just the place for sensible advice for emotional and friendship issues. Why dont you write to Danny Dyers problem page in Zoo while you are at it?

Thumbs up Forum friend.

Is it just conicidence that since he has been back our form has dropped off? It's a shame, he is a decent player, but as a bloke it is fast emerging he is an utter c*nt. Get rid of him asap.

We didn't lose today because of a supposedly weak bench and squad. We lost because Tranmere had two shots at goal and scored twice, individual errors leading to the goals and most worryingly the attitude of the players. Quite simply in the first half Tranmere wanted it more, hussled and pressured us and played out of their skin. You can have a squad of 60 world class players but if their attitude isn't right then they wont win. I can accept us losing due to moments of brilliance from the other team or bad luck from us, sometimes it just doens't go for you, but what i cant accept is us losing because the other team want it more, especially in a game we should win easily on paper and when we have so much to play for.

Sorry, i should have written 5 paragraphs on how depressing it is that at my age i dont own a house, i'll remember next time.

Who took the the cherry off your Belgian bun? A few weeks ago you were begging to hang out with me. You seem to have delvloped a bit of an attitude just lately, you been cyber knocking about with Supermikey and Alpine? You're right though, maybe i should be more interesting, posting threads about how depressing my life and how sh*t my mates are is sure to increase my internet popularity.

i had a forum friend once who used to bore the life out of me with his stories about when he was younger he used have ocd and a prayer ritual and he didn't say certain sentances bad things would happen, also used to moan a lot about how life wasnt all that, i've managed to avoid him for a while but he is perstant i tell thee.

why dnt we go into biz together and knock up some saints/man u snoods? the ultimate fashion accessory for the super fan

doesn't that come off the amount you can borrow for a mortgage?

my sentiments exactly, the closer we get to this game the more embarassing it becomes, it's nothing special, its a fourth round cup tie against Man Utd FFS. And if i see anyone wearing one of those scarves i'll f*cking Strangle them with it,

It's totally different, it's like Saints playing Shrewbury in the FA Cup and resting Fonte, Lallana, Lambert or another key "star" player, like we did. Wenger picked a team to win the match and used their squad, that is what good managers do, the team he picked was good enough to beat Leeds relatively comfortably, why? Because he has a good, strong squad full of good players, capable of winning games without their star men. Not just significantly poorer quality cover players that only play when others above them in the pecking order get injured.

no, they said "a source close to Chamberlain said he may have played his last game for us" - big difference, one is factual, the other is total ambiguous. IMO if we can keep him for the rest of season and get the rumoured £10m then we have a good deal, that will give us 5 very good championship players, if he leaves in Jan it doesn't give us much time to replace him, although i assume work has been going on behind the scenes incase this happens.

And this is my point, these are the sort of players we can expect to get if "cover" is all we go for.

i'll have some FREE advice, first time buyer, decent wage, zero deposit though at the moment, shall we call it a "chequered" credit history over the last 10-15 years but been a good boy for the last 3 or 4 years and now the only debt i have is a couple of grand on credit cards which i could clear off easily if i want to. Never been able to save up a deposit as been renting for 10 years and paying off debts from my early 20's. What are my chances?

a couple of internet sites said we were interested and an ITKer on here said we had bid £1.5m other than that its 8 pages of nonsense with people wetting themselves, creaming themselves or wristslitting in equal measure. Dont get me wrong, i'd love us to sign him, but yet again this forum excels itself with histrionics based on zero facts and speculation.

yeah it's just over 2 hours to drive, which is fine, i was all up for making an early start, getting into London early and visiting a few old haunts then heading to Peterborough for about 4pm but probably will drive, have to do that another day.

and Puncheon.

HOw much are you paying and what route are you going by train? I had all but decided to drive as when i looked online it was £65, 3 changes and 3 1/2 hours each way.

are you sure?