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it didn't. Would the 70 year old skate that got a rock on his cannsiter agree that it was right to let him leave at the same time? Or would he have prefered to have been kept in the ground for 30 minutes then let out into empty streets?

no you are not alone, If the away fans are still inside the ground, not spilling out in the streets giving it large, then there is nothing to attack. End of. Dunes idealistic view that everyone comes out together and anyone that feels slightly intimated zips up their jacket and goes on their merry way is naive to say the least. As you will see from my posts above, i am in your camp Darren and in the camp of common sense and totally agree with your column in the pink last week, letting fans with a history of ill felling and who hate each other confront each other, with or without a flimsey fence inbetween minutes after a 1-4 home defeat is insanitiy. Yet it seems that their tactics have not even been questioned by the clueless majority. Even the echo when printing a report about the 5 lads aquitted headlined it with a "police praised" headline. Lets face it "police f*cked up" is not something they would be happy to publicise, given the fact that the echo had salivated over every word they had printed in this case.

I agree mate, but it seems he has his critics on here, unwarranted IMO. He was superb today, just want to see what the clueless majority have to say,

went down friday to get my ticket, said they are expecting the biggest crowd of the season, will be a cracking atmosphere if we can genereate on. Brighton travel well and will make a din, lets hope we can get behind the lads and get a win. Could close the gap to 5 points with a win, Brighton seem to be in a sticky patch at the moment, lost last saturday, draw today and need pens to beat Woking, they are there for the taking!

use the money you saved to buy you nipper a tshirt you tight f*cker.

what do you have to say about today? Superb performance, absolutely dominated midfield along with Chaplow, an all action performance. Chaplow and Hammond are a much better pair than Schneiderlin +1. Both CM'ders absolutely superb today, dominated midfield from kick off and the reason we won so well. Maybe some of you clowns saying Hammond doesn't do this that and the other and is not as good as Steven Gerrard will have a rethink today, divs. On another note, Fonte, superb. Why was Barnard taken off? Again! Played really well.

Indeed, these ones that talk endlessly about soap operas and Ex-Factor. The Loose women generation. Lives so unfullfilled they spend all their time talking about and judging other people or talking about other peoples lives on reality TV shows and made up programmes.

and GLamorgan Police, away fans locked in then escorted to the M4 at the recent Swans v Cardiff game. NO trouble at that one funnily enough.

and missing an open goal from 2 yards away at WBA. To be fair to him he is another one that had his best games for us when he didn't play. People slagged him off when he was on the pitch but moaned about how much we missed him during that ban.

Yep i remember that too, was whinging for his whole first season though, got 22 goals in his first season and got a bit big time, moaning about his contract saying he wanted to go to a bigger club then ended up at QPR.

3 or 4 i thnk, hardly loads of goals. Why would he be offered a new contract before that? He played a handful of games and wasn't in the side until the second half of the season, he didn't deserve a first team contract before that as he wasn't a first team player. as soon as he was he wanted out. Fuller wasn't that bad, but the fans were on his back from day one, unless he played like Messi he was never going to win the fans over.

Stuart Ripley

how do people let themselves get like that? What do they see in the mirror?

90% of people are self obsessed, self indulged, attention seeking c****. 5% of people are okay and 5% you actually like. I really despise most people for the simple reason that they are f***ing idiots. Go to any pub on a sunday lunchtime for a good cross section of society and a take on why i find the human race intolerable. Full of greedy, self indulged wa***** with no life who find the simplist thing like choosing food off the menu as difficult as a round on the Krypton Factor. There is always a group, or should that be a herd, of middle aged women out with their pals for lunch, dissatisfied with their lives and spend the whole time giggling and trying to relive their youth. Dressed in clothes two sizes to big and once they have finished their lunch spend an eternity debating if they should be "naughty" and fill their overweight faces with a pudding which they dont need. They spend the whole hour reciting boring stories about work/family that none of the other give a f*ck about but they all politly laugh whilst some are thinking how much they'd like to f*ck/how vile their friends husband and another is thinking what a little c*nt her kids are. But as they rarely go out they'll live off their "lunch time craziness" for months. Then there are the young parents, kids barely out of school themselves, lad knocks up his teenage bird, produce some spawn of satan child, they are stuck together for a bit until he gets bored with his miserable bird moaning all the time or she realises what a f*cking loser she is stuck with and a few years down the line one of them ends up f*cking someone else, purely out of boredom with their incumbent since school. Two for one meals for them as the family allowance can only strech to this. The extended family, one that finds it nessasary to invite the entire clan out for sunday lunch. Grandparents so they can comfort themselves that they are not old and forgotten about, parents, doing it resentfully and arguing over who is going to drive home and not have a drink and horrible little teenage kids whinging and moaning, constantly on their pay as you go mobiles and would rather be at home or doing anything else than be with the family they resent. the lads at the bar- knob head blokes, thick f*cks, who sniff round any women between the age of 15 and 50, salivating over them like hungry Hyenas over a zebra carcass. Scruffy, rough looking always look hungover and drinking pint after pint, "because sundays are a day of rest, a day for drinking, thats what men do" The couples. Insecure, spending "quality time" together, but resentfully. The man would rather be watching the football on sky sports and the woman knows this and is resentful or it or would rather be shopping or having their nails done. The bloke trying desperately to make his moody long term girlfriend or wife laugh and spark some conversation which is something other than mundane, trying to relive happier times in their relationship. Or the newish couple still in the honeymoon period, where one is well into the other but one is still not sure. the other desperately trying to encourage the other too feel the same way about them, with humour, flirting or pretending to be interested in the s**t the other is spouting. The groups of friends, all trying to out do each other, all fancying each others partner and jealous or critical of what the others have. Judging them from what they wear, jobs they do, things they talk about. They will slag each other off behind each others back but for this hour or so at lunch they are best of friends. however, there is an underlying feeling of resentment and competition. There is always one that thinks he is a comedian and more intellegent than the rest, some look up to him, other resent him, either way none of them really like him. Another, louder than the rest, in "a look at me i am not as boring as i look" type way. They usually are. Most people are miserable, most people are self obsessed, most people are utter c*nts.

Why? he was good for us. Not a fan of Kenyne Jones, going on strike is a s*** c**** move. Also Leon Best or Nathan Dyer for the way they left, obviously thought they were too big for the club. None of them showed any respect for the club which developed them.

thinking about doing this one going from Harrogate like i did for Huddersfield, train return from York to Hartlepool is only £11 at the moment.

The headline has changed since they originally posted it on there. It was "saints fans cleared". More spin from the Echo, why not stick with the original headline which is what the story was about?

it's finally on the Echo website. The one that pleaded guilty changed his plea and got a suspended sentance for affray. Still a lot for shaking a fence but thank f*ck for some common sense finally in this whole thing. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/8678058.Saints_fans_cleared/

I wonder if the innocent 70 year old fella that got a stone on his cannister wishes he'd been held back in the ground for 30 minutes and not let out into, what the echo would have you believe a baying mob hurling bricks. The other view of the incident of course is that if the Pompey fans had been held in, then there is nothing to attack, Police only have one set of fans to deal with and clear whilst the other is safely locked inside the ground, then once cleared they can escort the Pompey fans back to the station, incident free, save a bit of posturing, like they have done in previous games.

Indeed, i am 33, decided, foolishly not to buy 10 years ago when i shold have but rented instead, thinking houses prices wouldn't continue to go up, llike many i know got in a bit of financial difficulty through overspending on loans and credit card which screwed my credit rating so didn't even consider a mortgage for a few years. I now have no debt but am probably in the worst position, i earn a decent wage but not enough to save the £25k deposit needed for anywhere decent quickly as i dont want to move out of the house i rent and not on a low enough income so dont qualify for any key worker/low income assistance. Rang up Barratts about the shared equity scheme on their new builds and they said as i wasn't a key worker needed to have kids or one on the way FFS!! For First time buyers involved getting your parents to help with your deposit seems to be the advice churned out by a lot of "experts!, which is all very well if they are rich enough, mine aren't! It seems for "normal" people you are screwed if you want to buy anywhere.

Wealdstone, Leeds loaned him to S****horpe and Carlise in his early days there.

and what were Leeds and Swindon playing at signing those wasters beckford and Austin FFS.

I find this whole "cover" thing hilarious. People bang on that we need cover in this that and the other position, accept that we wont get a player as good as our star men to come in and play second fiddle to them so accept that said "cover" player is not going to be as good. yet the very same people moan that our back up players are not as good as the ones they are coming in for! Haven't we got "cover" players already in positons like Wotton and Holmes? Player not as good as out first XI, bu can do a job coming on on as a sub or when we have injuries, Wotton didn't do too bad a job in the JPT final now did he. Yet these people although admitting that our "cover" players are not going to be as good as our first XI then complain that these guys who are adequate L1 players are not good enough! We dont need "cover" players that just sit in the bench in case of injuries, suspensions. What we need is options and a squad of 20-24 good players, including youngsters that can give us options, flexiblity and picked depending on the opposition & formation or one that can have an impact from the bench.

Obviously we dont know. Last season however there was a big Echo driven campaign detailing how we were supposedly the new Millwall and the police were going to crush our "firm" maybe they assumed the lads in the itchen north would go to the fence and try to get at them through it, stand back filming and take out a load in one hit? Turns out they didn't get any of the ones they wanted though. Just as a point apparantly at the recent Swansea v Cardiff game the away fans were kept in and only allowed to travel on official club transport. Also at Palace v Millwall they only let small groups of Millwall fans out together and staggered the exit.

tell me about it mate, drives me nuts too!