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And it was in 2009. This is insane.

Another game where we had a goal ruled out by a very marginal offside decision IIRC.

that's quite apt as it's where he is everytime a cross comes in

Scary really, just disappeared, doesn't sound good at all.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/59337349 tennis as well, although the Chinese seem to have a different way of dealing with this 👀

Danny walllace lived in Wakefield Road, Midanbury in a standard 3 bed semi. He was also a regular at Mikes Chippy at the Castle

Yes, plus the assumption that everyone else is racist is because he harbours those views himself against others.

Interesting that someone who has been racist is now claiming to be the victim of racism though isn’t it. I guess you view the world through your own prism.

One time forum favourite and Les Reed targets career seems to have gone downhill somewhat. He must dream of what might have been https://www.sportbible.com/football/former-ajax-star-quincy-promes-to-be-prosecuted-for-attempted-murder-20211118?source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR0LrGIxwHvhOc7MJNZRzP54p3t7fw-PwFHLDrad8ixmR5LK1envrvXil64

I wonder if there will now be a witchhunt to uncover anti semitism in cricket?

Looks like our man at the centre of all this isn’t squeaky clean himself. Making anti semitic comments in the past on Twitter

When you start at a new company dont you adapt then? Really not sure what you're imply by your last comment, it's a bit strange as no one is accusing mosques of treating white people who go to them as being racist.

Yes there is, but if that's the way Yorkshire cricket club socialise then surely that means that the onus should be on the newer players to adapt to that rather than everyone adapting to them. If a large group of 20 work colleagues were going out for a dinner and one of them was a vegetarian it would be unreasonable for the vegitarian to refuse to go to anywhere selling meat wouldn't it, they'd simply order a non meat meal. As the discussion here was race then if none of the asian players go into the bar then surely the obvious thing to say was that they dont, that's not racist it's stating a fact.

I dont think anyone has ever denied that there are a minority of racist people out there. We also agree that most people are good and mean well. Which validates my point that when we look into these sort of allegations are we looking to find racism, hoping to be outraged at any comment which even alludes to it, or are we taking a more balanced view that for sure some comments were racist and some people might be, but that doesn't mean that they all were. I'll ask again, if asian players dont go into a bar and therefore dont become mates with some of the other players, is that a racist comment or an observation? Maybe rather than avoiding the bar they should make the effort to integrate socially with the other players?

It's a valid point though isn't it. If they're not socialising with the other players then it makes it harder to fit in. That goes for anyone playing for any club. Been involved in plenty of sports teams myself where players that dont socialise with the others are not part of the boys club, it doesn't mean no one rates them or no ones likes them, its simply they're not part of the social group, that's perfectly natural and nothing to do with race.

I guess that depends on what prism you look at the world through. You can assume that everyone is a nasty, horrible racist and every comment was made to hurt and offend, or can assume that actually most people aren't racist and what was said was not meant to be offensive. If Asian players dont go into the players bar is that a fact or a racist comment, for example?

There were obviously some racist comments made but it doesnt mean that all comments made were racist. For example Bumble LLoyds comments were not racist but they're being used as this as part of the great outrage.

Surely that is just an observation though rather than a racist comment. Also once again the question needs to be asked if true why dont they? Is it because they dont want to be around alcohol? If so there are plenty of teetotal people who go into bars, it is possible to go into a bar and not drink alcohol.

this would be more apt for modern Britain BLUE MINK - Melting Pot (RARE LIVE UK TV 1970) Ft Roger Cook & Madeline Bell - YouTube Although despite the incredible well meaning of this song even this would be considered racist these days due to lines 5 and 6 Curly Latin kinkies Mixed with yellow Chinkees

Im still struggling to understand what David Lloyd has done wrong by saying in a private chat group that asian players dont go into the clubs bars.

You obviously don’t remember the days when games used to go to third and fourth replays.

Yes Agadir is decent. Did two weeks a few years ago Can also do a trip to Marrakesh from there. We went back and did a full week in Marrakesh a few years later had a nice Riad but a week was a bit much.

In fairness hypo is closer to guan/billy than Dave the builder, but I’d like to hear Dave’s thoughts on it.

Yep that’s why I said you need to redeem yourself. The eyes of saintsweb on you for the next few weeks.

👀 ITK watch. You have work to do to redeem yourself.......