hypochondriac

TBF you quite often express your opinion in an overly aggressive manner, often when you have been replied to in a civil manner.

Who is the 'crocked lot?' Connolly and Chaplow?

And I was just saying that when we made those seven million pound losses, I very much doubt we made them n the knowledge that we would be covering them through the sale of a 15 million pound youngster.

According to who?

I very much doubt that when we made those losses we factored in the 15 million pound sale of a youth player to our financial plan.

I think you are reading too much into it. That's not how it came across to me at all.

Who mentioned over one year? The question was how much is promotion worth. Clearly it is worth a hell of a lot more than 35 million which was the point.

Pathetic trying to tell me what I did and did not mean when you have been proven wrong. If you misunderstood me then fair enough but I always believed what mlg said. Ask him yourself, I don't agree with him lightly.

You can change the defending back to the original in the settings. Personally I prefer this defending now anyway. It's fine once you get used to it.

Is promotion worth 90 million to a club or not? (disregarding what you subsequently spend that money on or any clauses you have in player contracts- a choice of the individual club.)

DPS: Fancy trying to explain what you meant? If you get relegated then it's 90 million including parachute payments, if not then it's worth more than 90 million! Being non-abusive would be a bonus too.

What does he say?

In a nutshell. That is the answer. What we choose to do with that (be it put the standard wage increase clause in our player contracts or whatever) is entirely our choice but in terms of revenue, that breaks it down nicely.

Can't believe I am agreeing with MLG over this. It's seems quite obvious to me!

Classy. Seriously there is nothing at all pedantic about it. EITHER you go up and go straight back down, in which case you get parachute payments. Otherwise you get at least 30 million tv revenue and if you stay up then you get that AGAIN the season after. Therefore promotion has meant you have got a lot more than the 35 million you claim. There we go I was able to make my point without abuse, not sure you will be able to achieve the same feat.

As soon as you get promoted, you are guaranteed parachute payments should you ever be relegated at any point in the future.

ARGH! It's obvious to everyone but you.

But that is a CHOICE of the individual club to put in clauses that increase wages. Why are you finding this difficult?

But the parachute payment is guaranteed income, even if you were to go down at any point in the future.

Pretty sure that I saw the figure of 90 million mentioned a few years ago during the playoff final. Edit: there you go see above.

So 50 million of parachute payments and then 35 million tv revenue. Maybe 85 million? A lot closer than 35 million at any rate.

So really promotion can be worth 100 million, it's just that clubs choose to spend more money. Additionally, the parachiue payments mean you will receive at least 100 million doesnt it? Why should the parachute payments not count?

Does that include things like parachute payments?

I don't think anyone wants us to spend over our means but I think that if we sell Puncheon then with the Chamberlin money that's 16 million. Not unreasonable to expect some of that to be spent on a player or two to fire us to promotion.

Not to mention crouch and jones as well. Depressing