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It doesn't so it is unrealistic. No point discussing it, it's not going to be on the agenda again for years and years.

Fantastic news. Short term pain for long term gain. The sooner the failed Euro project collapses the better for everyone.

Expressing your opinion is fine, but ultimately that has little bearing on anything. Far better IMO to vote if you think it will cause a change to policies within government. Voting UKIP keeps Europe on te agenda and pressures the main two parties into acting on it or face their voters deserting them. The Lib Dems do not present this same choice because IMO they don't stand for anything credible and meaningful. Voters said as much at the election and it's why Lib Dems didn't garner more votes, people were unsure what they really stood for. I could create a new party that expressed my views and voted so that there was one person who voted. It's not going to change anything.

I think being inquisitive and interested in politics is fantastic. What I object to is the hint of 'knowitall' that pervades some of the young people on here. They are very opinionated which is fine (I certainly was at that age and still am) but I also accepted that I was still young and I respected those with more life experience than myself.

That's all very nice but completely unrealistic. This is an example of how young people are too idealistic. Life isn't like that.

Again, I never said anyone should be ignored. I would be more inclined to listen to my grandfather, an intellectual who has been through a world war and has a ton of life experience when it comes to things like Europe than a teenager.

I still think you're a good poster. Wish you would stop using words like prat etc. It's not particularly helpful and you're turning into some of those awful posters on the main board.

Voting UKIP will put pressure on the two main parties over Europe so I can see the point. As I fail to see that the Lib Dems stand for anything meaningful, I still don't see the point.

I agree. He's a 16 year old who probably gave no thought to what he was doing. Would be good to give him some education about it and hopefully he wouldn't be so foolish in the future. All the overreaction about the youth of today is amusing.

I take back what I said that lib dem voters know nothing about politics. I believe that quite a few do not but that some may do. I still don't know why people vote for them as a credible government though.

I never called you retarded, I simply said that in my opinion your views will change an awful lot when you have had time as an adult fending for yourself and that in my experience this is the case an awful lot of the time. Therefore your views whilst valid, come with this caveat.

I deliberately didn't reply to you because I had no desire to continue something when I had already outlined my view. Also I don't really want to talk to someone who continues with abuse.

Legend, I took those!

Who is they? Isnt it you? Didnt you want to address my other points?

Well that in itself is extremely silly.

And not silenced no, but their views should come with the caveat that due to their age they have had little life experience and thus are less able to make informed judgements on certain matters. When I was your age I accepted this and whilst I held certain views, I respected those with more life experience. Some views I was certain of back then I now have completely opposing views and most of that is because I have had first hand experience of life and these issues rather than simply reading about it and thinking I know a lot when really I knew very little at such a young age.

Glad you can admit it!

My Auntie had terrible problems getting issues solved when she went with them. I imagine they would be OK until you encounter an issue and need it sorted. Indian call centres are incredibly frustrating.

I went to an England game a coupe of years ago. Was really good, some posh restaurants with champagne, posher padded seats and a decent view looking down on the plebs below . I was right by the MOTD box too so that was fun. Going up the escalator to get in was impressive too and it's a very impressive stadium. Enjoy the day.

My opinion is that the Lib Dems do not offer a credible government and thus by voting for them those voters either are not aware of those policies that are unworkable, are voting as a protest or are a bit dim. Of course some of their policies could work and not all are bad, but I can't honestly believe that someone could read extensively into the Lib Dems and their policies and decide that they are the party for them to provide a credible alternative. Fair enough if you believe differently but it's not arrogant to hold that opinion.

I never stated that. It's my opinion based on the large majority of Lib Dem policy I have seen and heard. There is a reason they are the third party and not in with a real credible chance of winning.

Yes I realise dune but I don't like to polarise things as much as you do. I have good friends who have voted Labour, and I did once (and my Dad has done in the past although voted Conservative this time) so I understand the reasons for doing so. I look at each party on their merits before each election and obviously take other factors into account.

I don't even want to think about promotion until at least January.

Erm that looks like 23% to me and a higher percentage were younger, thus proving my point.

Sensible was the wrong choice of words. What I meant was that they are actually voting for a workable alternative. Good or bad, Labour would be able to be in charge of the country should they win an election tomorrow. The same cannot be said for the Lib Dems. It's completely ridiculous to suggest that the Lib Dems are a credible alternative to the two leading parties and so those who vote for them can't really be taken seriously. I currently disagree with Labour policies, but I can respect those who vote for them and I cant say I wouldn't vote for them in the future. Lib Dems? No chance.