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It will differ depending on the individual and the situation, but learning or attempting to learn the language should be a basic requirement. Respecting the laws and customs of the place you are in. I wouldn't move to Saudi Arabia for example and then do something likely to cause offense. Being polite and courteous to others where possible is also pleasant. I know that is difficult for most natives of this island as well, but if I went to live in another country, especially if I had come from reduced circumstances, then I would feel grateful towards that country for giving me the opportunity and would generally try and be pleasant (though that may be just myself rather than a rule for all immigrants to follow.) Having the mindset of wanting to work and contribute to the society should be another basic requirement. I have a lot of respect for some Polish workers for example who come here with the intention of contributing and making the most of the opportunty they have been given. Sadly that is not the case for all immigrants. Other ways of integration in my mind are optional things such as attending town meetings or public events such as summer fetes, fairs or charity events and learning and having a good knowledge of Britain, its values and even little pop culture things such as our history for making good comedies or famous figures in British history. Adopting just some of those things if someone moves to a new country I believe makes you more integrated into the community and you are likely to be accepted far more. Like I said, my girlfriend has Iraqi roots and it was hard for her father who came here university on his own knowing nobody. He adapted really well, embraces British culture but keeps his own as well so it can be done.
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I think that people coming to live in a new culture should adapt to integrate into that culture as best as they can (and often I believe they are more comfortable in that culture if they do that.) Obviously over time the original people who lived there will change as well as the feel the influence of those who have migrated and that can be a positive thing as well.
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Quite a large percentage of those I am talking about do not fall into that category, though I accept that some do. Even so, my girlfriend's father is Iraqi and feels no animosity towards this country, although the majority of his family were killed by Saddam.
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I don't think he's fat. He isn't saints fit.
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SOmeone mentioned Jos with reference to his sense of humour so it was a natural discussion point. Lets move on now and in future lets try and talk about Southampton rather than me as a poster and subjects that have been done to death. I have a great sense of humour thanks, but it's hardly amusing to bring up something that was discussed in detail over the last fe days in a totally unoriginal manner. Even if you meant it as a 'joke.' Lets move on.
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So would probably make it a lot harder to get a buyer if you have a lot of football related debts. Could we not see clubs in a hole in this case using all their money on the football debts instead of HMRC and smaller creditors for example, as Portsmouth have done?
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That is so utterly ill informed. Extremist elements of certain cultures are extremely negative. Cultures that deny women certain rights for example. Calls for the implementation of sharia law, muslim factions that despise the west and routinely spout hate speeches. Look at the spate of honour killings for example to conclude that you don't want that element from that culture here for anyone. To suggest that there is no examples of cultures impacting negatively on this country is just untrue. As to your second paragraph, I don't know where to begin...
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It's just pointless though. Deliberately derailing an interesting discussion for no reason other than to try and bait a response out of me.
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You are unoriginal and boring.
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He isn't 'saints fit.' As an exphysio, Adkins is really good at the getting players in shape side of things. When Lambert came to us he was clearly a good talent but once we worked on his exercise plan amongst other things, he has improved hugely. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you build your team around Sharp? If so that may be one reason why he will take some time to adjust.
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Yeah not sure he is properly fit yet. Much too early to tell what he is like yet. He missed a chance at West Ham, but in my opinion it came to him quite quickly. Although he should have scored, it wasn't as bad as people made out.
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I also believe in respecting a culture if you move into it as well. That would apply to Britons moving abroad as much as anyone else.
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Nothing wrong with multiculturalism (as long as those involved have the correct mindset on both sides to make it work.) to suggest that in all cases people coming here and changing our culture is a good thing is plainly nonsense.
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Could well do! Good to see all different nationalities mixing though. At some clubs you do get those with common languages who pair off together. At pitcher there was guly, schneiderlin, chaplow, forecast (chatting up a girl in the bar on his own) and jos. last night there was Richardson, barnard, jos and seaborne.
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If I didnt have an iphone I would have a Samsung galaxy s two. Fantastic phone.
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Hardly. Just coincidence that I happened to be there on Saturday and stood behind them waiting to pay last night.
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Jos is amusing. A load of the players were in The pitcher and piano on Saturday and he was joking around then. Last night they watched a film in Eastleigh and Jos was berating Richardson about the five pence he owes him saying he never forgets his debts! Richardson was also moaning about the three quid parking charge. I'm not sure it's something a football should be too concerned with!
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It's yet another reason to oppose the EU in its current form. Australia's immigration policy is miles more sensible.
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And this is the exact view of the polish immigrants I work with.
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Oh I can quite imagine that British people are similar. However if I moved to another country, I would make a concerted effort to learn about the culture and the language if it was a non English speaking country. I appreciate that not every British person would though. That is also not to say that every immigrant is like this as that is not the case at all. It's more to do with a mindset. Those who have come to live here and make an effort to see what being British is all about are much easier to get along with and I believe much happier themselves.
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What part is unintentionally comedic?
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Ha. I'm certainly not saying that everyone who is Indian is like that as verbal likes to think I do. He mistakenly believes I am prejudice in some way towards minority groups which is quite frankly laughable. Everyone is welcome in my business no matter who they are. However, as I said certain minority groups have no interest in integration and that is where the problems start. Even the polish people I work with state the same thing. Verbal assumes it is something I do despite knowing nothing about me, how I live my life or any of the people involved. I have a great working relationship with people in general including many born in India. My only issue is with those who dont want to associate with other cultures or try to learn anything about Britain. This is particularly true about those who do not speak any English. In my opinion this should be a basic requirement for coming into the country.
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Seeing as you know nothing at all about my real life, I would stay quiet. I certainly wouldn't think that what I write on here is anything to do with how I am in real life. I get on well with a number of minority groups. The polish individuals I work with are extremely friendly but in my experience, certain minority groups have no interest in integration and they can come across as rude and hostile as a result.
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If you weren't getting any you would change your tune.
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People who come from other cultures do not always change our culture for the better. That is plainly rubbish.
