hypochondriac

Care to comment on the Echo being banned?

So who do you define as a problem member then? I disagree with a lot of people but I wouldn't request that they have less posts than myself purely because I hold a different opinion to them. TDD maybe because he is a troll (and admits it.)

Yep pretty much agree with that. There are quite a few positives but also a fair few negatives. I just want the negative aspects addressing (mostly the communication with the fans) and I'll be dead happy.

It really has. I think the main difference is how much bigger and more strictly moderated this is compared to the early days of saintsforever.

Precisely! I now have to attempt to go to the fans forum so I can seek out answers when really I shouldn't have to, these questions should have been answered on the OS when the decisions were taken and although I would still be unhappy, I would accept it.

I think there are a minority on both sides who ruin the discussion for everyone else because they polarise everything and put forward ridiculous arguments both for and against Cortese.

So they've cancelled it. Release a statement and let fans know. What you don't do is just get rid and not say anything about it.

Thanks mate. Nice to know that others feel the same way as me. I do sometimes feel as if I am swimming against the tide!

I know. Usually it is the same old posters from years back as well. I really do miss the old saintsforever. I have had a few conversations with some of the more established posters on here about starting up an alternative forum in the spirit of the old one (tubgirl allowed ). If anyone wants to help with this then feel free to PM me.

We don't have to have the trophy. As I said, the worrying thing is not letting the fans know. It demonstrates a lack of respect IMO.

It's not not having it which is the issue here, it's not communicating that to the fans.

Would be nice if we were told we weren't going to have it though if that is the case.

Yep and I think that goes for both sides. Mostly though I get irritated by people saying I am anti Cortese. I wish people would just use some common sense and see what people like Steve Grant are trying to say.

I just wish people could accept that other people have the right to an opinion which differs from their own.

Also TDD, if the fans forum goes ahead and fans are not allowed to attend, would you agree that was bang out of order?

I agree. I will be able to get a ticket though due to my friend from Solent. I have been to every one so far and I was impressed with Cortese last year. I hope for a similar experience this year.

I will be asking all these questions should I be allowed to go to the fans forum. If I am prevented from going, I think that will say a lot about Cortese.

Precisely. Not sure I would be that bothered if they came out and explained why they were getting rid.

Well said Steve.

a-bloody-men. Brilliant post.

I hope you aren't including me in that. I comment on a range of topics on this forum and have done for years, both positive and negative.

But clearly people are not listening. In fact, people post these rumours and they get abused. Matthew Le God has been on Steve's case for ages.

Do you not think that the fact that Steve Grant's comments have lent credibility to some of these "rumours" over the past few months? Or is he just posting for attention? (lol)

I may well have done and I hold my hands up. People are allowed to change their minds though. What I have heard from a number of sources is building a not very fantastic picture of Cortese. I don't want him to leave, but I would like him to be receptive to change.

Yep. It is madness.