hypochondriac

There is no definitive definition of art and so therefore I can say that IMO a tattoo is not art and you can say that in your opinion it is but you cannot state as fact that it is or isn't.

Ok then define art and then say why it's ridiculous.

Well you've stated it as fact there when in fact the definition of art is open for debate. It's not definitively art and I would argue that it most certainly isn't.

If reports by posters on here are anything to go by then certainly! Not answering calls for a start could have been one of a number of things which could have resulted in Liebherr getting annoyed and pulling out.

It was dismissed as meaningless in the show. There were a large number of plot holes (why did he have to be hung in 30 days? That's very unrealistic.) but the point of it wasn't to create a watertight case.

Best thing on TV for ages. I am against the death penalty anyway but it really brought it home. The actor who played GG was fantastic too.

It's ridiculous and the same with Phil Brown at Hull. Why do either of them deserve to be sacked? Billy Davies should never have been sacked from Derby either.

That's what I heard.

Yeah ron, the end of the book has a big bit at the end about the fall of it all. People were still in denial years later. There's a great german film all about east germany I think it's called the lives of others. Watch that as well!

It's by anna funder. I'm on my phone so can't get more details but it's easy to find and I think it's on amazon for about 3.50

I urge anyone with any interest in this to read the book stasiland. It's a fantastic and engrossing read

On sky last night david ginola said he was more proud of his assists than his goals. Show him that cantona film where eric says his best bit on a football pitch is a pass for a goal. If it's good enough for cantona it's good enough for him!

Well that isn't what Nicola said at the fans forum and I know who I am more inclined to believe.

Is it really that important? Sure some celtic fans are idiots but I imagine this will cause some stupid overreaction from someone like the daily mail.

FFS. EVERY time.

Well I'm convinced.

Any chance we could start this thread again mods with all idiotic replies deleted? I'll settle for all of St Will's replies deleted.

Fantastic result. They are running out of games...

When you joined the forum you agreed to abide by the forum rules. There used to be an initiative on the old forum "play the ball not the man." It's something which would work really well in your case. Comment on the issue in the thread (Trottman) instead of taking the thread off topic by baiting Alpine. Seriously, what did you think your comment was going to achieve? You're the first to have a go when Alpine winds you up so why are you giving him an excuse?

Sigh. I'm sure the mods will have a different view.

So once again, just because the majority of the people want us to do something which some consider to be bad, that isn't a reason not to have a referendum. With regards to the EU, if accepting this and other hoops we must jump through to stay in the EU, then I would rather we were out of it. I would like to stay in but retain many of the rights that have been eroded. As someone has already mentioned, I want us to be in the position we were with Thatcher. I want a healthy relationship with Europe but I consider it wrong that we must subsidise smaller nations and that criminals can go to Europe to get our judgements overturned.

I commented on something that Alpine said. You get personal and throw about insults even when Alpine has not even posted on this thread! It's called baiting and it's unnecessary and pathetic.

Well I can't see a scenario in the next ten years where it won't be one of Labour of Tory (or maybe Lib Dem.) If it is one of them that my original point stands.

There is no chance we will ever get this in a referendum. IF we ever got a referendum (which I strongly doubt) then it will be worded in such a wa as to make it confusing at best and strongly favouring the pro lobby.

St Will, can you not realise that by harping on and on about the same stuff you are as bad as alpine? Just leave it alone.