hypochondriac

I think if there's another lockdown many people will not be as compliant. Many will think they've followed all the rules as best as they can and have been double jabbed as they were told to in order to get normality back so why should they suddenly go back into lockdown? For that reason I think it may not work.

It doesn't matter for the player where the tweets come from but it certainly matters if you're trying to argue that the UK is a systemically racist country and you're using these comments on social media as evidence when the majority originated outside of the UK. Certainly the way its been reported by the media is misleading at best and it seems like they have an agenda with the reporting of things like the defacing of the mural. "Police looking into the online abuse that followed the final say more than half of the 396 posts being investigated are from accounts overseas, with most coming out of Asia and Europe."

Probably this one: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9964889/amp/Majority-trolls-sent-racist-abuse-Bukayo-Saka-lived-abroad.html?__twitter_impression=true https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58466849

What unpleasant things were our fans caught on camera doing at the euros that was comparable to monkey chants? Racism aimed at players from the stands is something entirely distinct from a bit of disorder outside the stadium before a game and of course if monkey chants occurred then we are fully justified in complaining and the behaviour of our fans is irrelevant to that.

Have you forgotten that we've made a lot of progress but that we still have a way to go then?

Looks decent and we are stronger in attack this year imo.

Or looking at someone's skin colour and then telling them to be uncomfortable...

What do you think about that NHS link posted earlier?

Apologies I thought you were being sarcastic.

I think you'll have a real job on your hands to convince a majority of the British public that major UK institutions are systemically racist. Best of luck.

It was fake news.

Yes the police in general stop more young black men than other demographics. That doesn't make them institutionally racist.

Cool looks like we agree then. Its very small minorities that are racist as most people have said all along. Calling something institutionally racist is imo an excuse to tar every member of a group as racist and do a bit of guilt by association without having to give specific examples.

That's true but that depends what is meant by "certain factions." I don't believe that the UK is institutionally racist.

Needless to say I completely disagree with your assertion. I don't think we need to go into the minutiae of each example you've given but let's just say I don't subscribe to your theory of institutional racism. Britain is one of the most tolerant and accepting nations on planet Earth (hence why so many want to come here) and we should be proud of that fact.

Given his comment, I'd imagine that Turkish's view aligns quite closely with mine as outlined below:

Well it is less valid if we are discussing current systemic discrimination in the workplace and your evidence for its existence is some historic anecdote from presumably years ago. The only people who have ever claimed that there is no racism in the UK are those who like to falsely caricature their ideological opponents.

I hope you followed your work whistle-blower policy to highlight discrimination in the workplace? Be the change you want to see.

Did it? It's been a commercial gesture from the start or at least since football started doing it. The Nike ad with Colin kapernick predates the taking the knee at the football.

What's a friend of colour?

I'd like to see him do well at least in part because he's black because it would prevent race baiters like that bloke from the association of Black lawyers from calling everyone racist due to less black managers.

It made me sad seeing Sol Campbell doing the rounds the other week angling for jobs and implying racism is to blame for his poor performance and I despaired if this was the representative being used for a black person working in football.

I predicted a while ago that eventually they will announce something like a black inclusion task force or something like that and then use that announcement to end the knee taking whilst claiming victory. It's really the only way they can do it without letting the "racists" win.

It's equality of opportunity that's important not equality of outcome. I don't want to see tokenism in football but I'd love to see a black manager at one of the top teams arriving on merit and performing really well.

What's very sad is that well meaning liberal and compassionate people are co-opted into this cult-like way, of thinking and then are unwittingly used for insidious purposes. I have no doubt that most people who subscribe to this way of thinking believe that they are doing good and that's a tragedy. Of course there's also soggy types who use it as an excuse to feel superior to others, to upset who they see as their ideological opponents and who actually don't give a damn about others but just want to have their preconceived bias confirmed.