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No.

How do you know I'm either white or middle aged? That's quite an assumption.

Lol. Almost jussie smollet levels of idiocy.

People delving into history to try to find a phrase that's offensive and then getting it wrong is a real pet hate of mine.

Agree with all of that but I've been wrong before with nonsense in the courts. Like you say it was never going to be ignored but it would have been much better if it had been.

No there'd be vilifications for both. I don't believe that there should be pressure and negative repercussions for either action.

Of course they can do that if they want to. As long as there isn't corporate pressure on them to do it then they can but I'd personally think they were a bit silly to do so.

I can see a clear double standard when a group calling themselves black lives matter with a website clearly outlining their aims is supposedly nothing to do with the very aims they have explicitly outlined and yet when someone in response writes a phrase such as "it's OK to be white" with no other meanings explicitly stated, that is concrete proof of racism and white supremacy in action. The literal words White lives matter are only "offensive" if you ascribe to it racist connotations in the same way that others are harshly criticised for daring to suggest that for many the words "black lives matter" have a deeper connotation beyond simply the three words. If I had to make a best guess about this chap then on the face of it he's the type of person who gets whipped up into an angry frenzy about rape gangs and terrorist attacks and its possible there's a racist element there. He's most likely seen the killing of the three people the other day, thought "what about the white people being killed by Muslims" and then stuck that plane in the air as a response. Like I said pretty crass and distasteful and not a great demonstration of intelligence to do that but I don't think there's some insidious deeper meaning to it. Like I said though, I'd rather that we didn't go around categorising people based on their skin colour. I have no more in common with my elderly white neighbour than I do with the African family opposite simply because we share the same colour of skin and this entire effort to divide communities down racial lines is distasteful in the extreme. Do you think a reasonable response to a statue with "fuck white people" or signs with white people getting shot or killed on them is to say "white lives matter?" If not why not?

What percentage of the UK black population do you think have been subject to discrimination in UK football coaching jobs? 0.001%? Less? Even if what Viv Anderson says is true, that's not evidence of widespread racial discrimination of black people accross UK society. Hilarious that you accuse LD of being selective with his questions and then you ask a much more selective question as a counterpoint!

Do you realise how condescending it is to someone who disagrees with you to respond with "educate yourself?" I've listened to opposing viewpoints on this for hours, I don't need any more "education" on the topic. Like many others I simply disagree with most of the theories peddled to suggest that the UK in particular is some sort of uniquely racist hellhole when almost all evidence suggests that we are living in the freest and most Liberal time periods and we are one of the most tolerant and Liberal nations on earth. I don't advocate for any group receiving any sort of preferential treatment due to the colour of their skin and I'd prefer not to use the term "white" at all because it's a stupid term but the fact that you think it would mark me as a racist were I to do so says more about you than other people I would suggest.

Yes that does seem to be the stock response towards those who question the black lives matter organisation or the official narrative- just too thick to understand and have no real grasp of events. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

I'd like to know from the BLM supporters on here: in your estimation, who do you think caused the most damage, the bloke who flew the plane over the stadium yesterday or the person who threw the bike at the police horse?

Cool. So a few more ex saints in league one of next year whatever happens.

"Replace it with an alternative model of community-led safety." No idea what that means.

Hold on. People on here for weeks have said there is no hidden meaning to the phrase "Black Lives Matter" that it's a simple statement of fact that black lives do actually matter with no other agendas. Why is there suddenly some hidden meaning to "White Lives Matter" beyond the obvious statement of fact that of course they matter. You've got no idea that "white people" (for want of a better term because I'd prefer not to group people in terms of the colour of their skin) in Western societies don't suffer injustice, mistrust, discrimination etc to a greater or lesser degree than anyone else. You're doing what a lot of people like to do and equating all difference between racial groups as discrimination of some kind. No doubt at all that there are black people who have faced discrimination of many kinds but it's impossible to say with any certainty that a random white member of the public has experienced greater or lesser levels of discrimination than a random black member of the public. So yes black lives do matter, it's OK to be black and we should stand up to black discrimination. The same also applies to other skin tones and when you see a fair amount of graffitti with variations of f*ck white people around various capital cities and all over social media, it seems like a reminder of this could be a good idea- albeit not tied to the back of an aircraft during the football.

Nothing at all. If Black Lives matter is just stating the obvious or an extension of "Black Lives Matter too" then surely the same is true for all races? Is it controversial to believe that some people will believe that White Lives don't matter very much or at least matter less and that pointing that out whilst potentially crass and a bit rude in this context is ordinarily not something that should provoke an outraged response? But often with this gross offence thing it's not important what the actual content or intent is, it's what the court or a judge believes the intent or the meaning to be that matters in the legal sense- see the Nazi Pug guy.

You'd be surprised. Maybe malicious communications or something about intent to offend.

Lol. Burnley fan by the looks of things and a bit of a berk. No point going insane about it though like some in the media are.

That sounds a bit like white supremacy to me. How do we know you aren't unconsciously racist? Dismissing the idea that you are racist just emphasises your white fragility.

It's a simple question. Are you racist?

Unconscious racism is by its very definition not obvious. Are you a racist?

Well I do understand that but you'd have to be pretty dumb not to realise that the point they wrre making was obvious before they flew the plane.

Agreed. I mean all that money and effort for what purpose? To have a few liberals and the easily offended frothing at the mouth? What's the point?

Support what? Flying a plane over Burnley's stadium saying white lives matter? I think that's a really stupid idea. Bit of a bizarre thing to be ashamed or embarrassed by though.

I don't know but I haven't seen enough white out pictures on my Facebook feed and shamefully, Richard Blackwood has stayed silent on this important issue. Black silence is violence.