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Indeed and quite clearly racism exists. Most of the links that supersonic posted don't say what he thinks they say either. I asked for links from institutions that state that Britain is institutionally racist. Most of his links were from an individual not the organisation itself, didn't state that Britain was institutionally racist or included quotes like this which suggests to me he didn't actually read the articles he posted: “If other people think we are institutionally racist, then we are. It’s no good me saying we’re not and saying you must believe me. [That would be] a nonsense, if they believe that.”

To be honest I generally hate those and find them disingenuous. Whatever you think of ings at least he hasn't tried to be all fake and suck up to the fans. When Adam did that after he'd shat on the fan base it made me feel sick.

I was told a while ago that Ralph isn't the best communicator and leaves it to others in his team to do that side of things. Not that it really matters but there could be some truth that his management style isn't universally loved.

I will hold fire to see who we actually get but on the face of it that would be very disappointing to lose out.

Best of luck mate. My best friend at primary school was a villa fan so I've always looked out for your results. Ings is class and should do a good job for you although it's undoubtedly a blow to lose your talisman, if you're like us you will spread the money about and have a more balanced team at the end of it. Always better not to be relying on one superstar and I hope we can take that advice as well now we have lost Danny.

I'm fine with a bit of a haggle but we just need to do it in the right way. We have been guilty in the past of holding out for so long that we lose the player we want and get the less effective alternative. Our ings replacement will probably define our season and may well be the difference between safety and relegation. If we mess up the signing of a lb it is a pain but we would probably be OK but this is imperative that we get the right person.

I agree with you unless we haggle and then end up losing out and go for the cheaper and possibly not as good alternative.

I felt he was more likely to go than not this summer. Its not exactly a surprise I suppose the only real disappointment is that he's gone to a club like villa so suddenly just before the start of the season.

The point is that unconscious bias if it exists is by its own definition unknown. The tests that look for it don't actually know what they are testing. Results differ from test to test so the results aren't reliable and there's a fair amount of evidence that doing these tests actually increases any bias.

OK you did ask. So called unconscious bias is typically measured by an implicit association test. Any impicit bias test does not reach the test retest threshold for reliability. That means that results aren't repeatable with the same person to the degree that they would be useful and the results therefore aren't valid. I have seen many reports critical of these sort of experiments for having different results if they are repeated multiple times on the same subject and a number of studies that suggest that awareness of a bias- if that is what it is- actually has the opposite effect with higher levels of bias afterwards like this study: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/229525058_Ironic_evaluation_processes_Effects_of_thought_suppression_on_evaluations_of_older_job_applicants So overall I'm not convinced that it's either a reliable method for establishing levels of bias or that it affects any positive behavioural change afterwards. The fundamental flaw in these tests is also pointed out here: http://www.hcdi.net/reliability-and-validity-of-implicit-association-test/#:~:text=Studies have found that racial,overall is just around 0.5.&text=In fact%2C studies among different,subsequent behavior than explicit responses And here the problem is addressed explicitly in children: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29251966/ I'm not convinced that unconscious bias exists and if it does I don't think it's possible to measure it with any degree of accuracy or to know if any supposed bias has any sort of negative effect on behaviour. The UK is not systemically racist as I said.

I'm perfectly calm thanks. It's just worth reminding people that the screaming headlines from the papers about how awful and racist we are is incorrect. Otherwise you get weirdos like supersonic making mad claims about systemic racism. At least we can agree on your first point. We should be proud of the fact that we are one of the least racist and most tolerant nations on Earth.

I can't see us losing jwp in this window. Imo he will most likely go next year.

Firstly you have no idea what racism I have or haven't experienced. Secondly what examples do you have of every institution acknowledging that Britain is systemically racist? Show some examples. You're a loon.

Our defence was absolutely awful last year. Losing vestergaard for a decent fee may help us to improve it. I'd sell him personally.

Some truth? I think it's clear that it was a ridiculous overreaction. Oh and "unconscious bias" is a load of flim flam that has been comprehensively debunked. It's bollocks basically. Britain is not institutionally racist and the vast majority of brits are appalled by overt forms of racism and would like to see it be harshly dealt with.

I'm not too worried considering the money we got but I am a bit worried now about relegation this year. Looking at our team we have a poor goalkeeper, bednarek isn't great, vestergaard may or may not be here and then the new guy at lb is unproven. We're light in cm if romeu doesn't play every game and our wingers are inconsistent. Armstrong is good but there's a hell of a lot of average players in and around our team and that's before you look at the bench. I think Delaney would be a good signing for some experience.

Nothing really surprises me with saints and I did expect him to go earlier this summer. I'm surprised it's been left this late but I expect they came in with massive wages and he said he wanted to go. I just hope we have enough about us to stay up. We certainly need more strength in depth now that we have a bit of cash. A striker, a dm and a full back are minimum requirements.

I really can't see us selling jwp as well. Stranger things have happened but it would be a surprise.

Well he's not wrong.

Wtf was that?

Exactly. I can absolutely understand why some people would be supportive of taking the knee even if I disagree. There's too many people on the other side though who want to use vile abuse against someone who doesn't support it and make all sorts of accusations without even wanting to discuss it. Sadly this is just one of so many issues where this tactic is used. It's very sad.

You're aware of the arguments of every person who has booed? I would say your previous caricature of their opinion was pretty much the least charitable interpretation of it and suggests that you had already made your mind up without talking to anyone with a different opinion to you.

And of course you widen the definition of "intolerant" to be those who disagree with you so it's then fine to be abusive and unpleasant to people and you caricature their responses so you can dismiss them as thick idiots. Classic tactic.

You're a charming individual full of kindness and tolerance for others.

If you are actively against the gesture and object to its presence at the football that you've spent your hard earned money on then there aren't many other options left to you to express your displeasure other than booing. I haven't booed by the way and am happy to ignore it but if that's how people want to show their dissatisfaction then more power to them. If people thinks that makes them racist then that says more about them to be honest and their desperate need to slap derogatory terms in people that they disagree with.