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Because they dislike the gesture and don't support it. Simple.

Good Post. Everyone knows what you say is true, even those who try to pretend it isn't the case.

You could stick Ings in a dress before kickoff too TBF.

I've made my prediction. At some point they will need a plan for a graceful retreat. There will be a new organisation set up led by the likes of Mings, Rashford, Henderson and their PR agencies with a catchy name like Take The Knee Inc lobbying for more black people on the FA board and more black managers. They'll probably get a diversity officer in like June Sarpong on £250k a year to tell the FA where they're going wrong. Once that's up and running they can call taking the knee a success and stop it whilst claiming victory. Mark my words.

Gaston ramirez.

Neither of those two things will do anything to "end racism." Besides, I've said on a number of occasions that I've never booed any players but that I support the right of supporters who pay to go to matches to do so. I don't need to go over the circular arguments about the knee again as its been done to death but I would be interested to know what individuals should be doing to "end racism." If everyone did what you suggested and was fully supportive of the knee it still wouldn't end racism so you're incorrect to suggest that my support for the knee would make any difference at all.

Seek help.

What more should I do to make sure there isn't racism in the world? It's an idealistic fantasy world ti pretend that racism is going to be eliminated. It's like saying we are going to protest against physical violence until all physical violence is eliminated. It's absurd.

So virtually every white person that encountered a black person prior to 1900 was a racist then?

I don't think it will. I think eventually people will just ignore it. Some lower league clubs there will be some booing and maybe some banning orders, the media will hype up the boos and call all the fans racist but ultimately they will keep going for a while until mings, Rashford and their PR company come out with a new organisation for black quotas on the FA board and in management and then they will announce that the kneeling has been a great success and they can stop it now.

Well if its on Channel Five then I doubt anyone will question its credibility. In all seriousness though, you can't simply look back in history and then apply societal norms and values onto figures from a different time. By that logic virtually every single person in England who encountered a black person before 1900 was a racist and should be condemned. It's childish and foolish. Yes there were things said and done a generation ago that would be considered racist now but it needs to be set in the proper context of the time. There may be things that aintforever does now that in 20 years would be deemed unacceptably racist. Should he be branded a racist in the future if that is the case?

Francis Drake and Walter Raleigh were filthy racists.

That doesn't mean you were racist, simply that societal norms have changed from 50 years ago.

Exactly. They can't stop now or the racists win. There is no acceptable time to stop kneeling.

You include yourself? You consider yourself to be racist? Weird.

(even though I've spoken to two premier league footballers who said to my face that they do it for a quiet life.)

When Blomey I agree with MLG! Looking at social attitude surveys, the UK population consistently scores very highly in being welcoming to minorities and accepting of diversity. We are clearly one of the most tolerant and accepting nations on Earth.

The precedent has been set now. the kneeling should continue in perpetuity or the racists win.

Great idea. keep it going. if anything the protest should be increased.

Has there been any recent link to Armstrong?

I'm prepared to give him longer than one half of football. It's not ideal but if Ralph has seen potential for him as cover in that area then I think it's worth giving a go.

For how long?

Is he going to be much worse than our options from last season? If we don't sign anyone else then it will probably be Livramento providing lb and rb cover and then Djenepo in a pinch at lb if required.

Yep. OK so we lose out on a mega fee but it reduces our initial outlay and potentially we get a cracking player for a few years.

Good post and an example of a positive and reasonable reaction to this signing.