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You've just gone off on a tangent talking about something that I never spoke about. I haven't said the system is good, I haven't said its working, I haven't spoken about the issue you want to discuss. My point was clear, there are some people on benefits who have difficulties with things like budgeting as shown on this programme. It is not a sensible idea imo to give advances of cash as one lump sum and then take it away over a long period later because it encourages people to make lavish purchases that they can't afford.

I'm sorry but where did I question the idea that the vast majority of people are not deserving cases? I don't think it's a good idea to give people big lump sums of cash as an advance because in a number of cases that's going to get them in worse financial difficulty. That's not a controversial statement, it's about recognising weaknesses and tailoring support to ensure that it is most effective. You read what, you want to rather than what is actually written.

Odd that you'd think words on a screen make someone angry. I'm perfectly calm thanks for the concern. The original inference from soggy was that if we stopped any operations in the middle east that we would not be a target for Islamic extremists. That's obviously nonsense. In the minds of these people, the very way we live our lives makes us a legitimate target.

Surely that's the logical conclusion here? Atrocities committed by Islamic extremists are in reality nothing to do with Islam, its the west who have provoked these law abiding citizens into action.

It's our fault really. The west should be apologising to poor Mr adebolajo. We provoked him into the beheading. Without our warmongering he'd be a model citizen.

Nah its the west's fault for bombing things. Nothing to do with him.

The Democratic party really should be concentrating on simply beating Trump at the ballot box. The fact that virtually every democratic candidate are deeply flawed and electorally unappealing isn't the fault of the Republican party. Just like the Corbynites, if they lose to trump again they will largely have themselves to blame.

How in your opinion will this dynastic power grab manifest itself?

I presume this is the programme. Whilst I'm aware that this sort of thing doesn't happen in every case, it's hard to have too much sympathy for someone who gets a load of money and then think the priorities are buying a new phone, getting her hair done and going out for posh meals. I do feel that cases like this make the case for food stamps or a voucher scheme quite strongly to save people from themselves. Dishing out large sums to individuals with poor impulse control doesn't tend to end well. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/stories-51389481/universal-credit-i-went-wild-and-it-hit-me-like-a-ton-of-bricks

I can also play Central midfield. Doesn't mean I should.

Thank goodness we got that rb cover in january.

Well that's ****. Not sure what we will do for the rest of the season. Hope he's OK.

I'm sorry but that's just laughably simplistic. Now I see why you voted for Labour...

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When you can draw direct links between church leaders and violent Christian extremists in the UK then I'll call for similar levels of surveillance on churches. I don't think we should be censoring any texts that's the wrong way to go but we definitely need to scrutinise some high profile mosques to a greater degree than we currently do.

Yep we need to keep them locked up for longer whilst working to stop their brainwashing. Part of that involves cracking down on extremist propaganda eminating from mosques.

In what world is feeling the loss of a child the same as feeling shame? You have no idea what this family is like.

How do you know they feel shame?

I know their child is an Islamic extremist IS follower and a terrorist. I know he displayed worrying signs to his family potentially for years and there's no sign that he was reported or stopped from from doing it. Being Muslim is largely irrelevant save for the fact that their mad religion means its easier to find like minded people within it who hate the west and have sympathy towards extremists.

He was a good boy apparently...

Any children of mine won't be joining an Islamic death cult on my watch.

Security expert on the radio made this same point this morning. He said there are too many mosques that contain leaders who have some sympathy towards people like this Islamic extremist and things won't change until this is clamped down on.

Even so if he's still a threat to the public why is he being allowed out with only half of his sentence served? The government have to take their share of responsibility for this.

Although ffs yet another Islamic terrorist let out after serving half his sentence for terrorism and goes out to murder and maim within a week. This country is run by clowns sometimes. At the time of Amman's release there were concerns about the danger he might pose to the public but there were no legal mechanisms to keep him in prison I mean how is that a thing? What's the point of a sentence if they are legally required to let someone leave prison after serving half?

Agreed. At least the London Bridge attacker got some bang for his buck so to speak. Hardly a good advertisement for his brand of Islam: join us today and you too can be so incompetent that you fail to kill anyone in the service of Allah and you can get shot almost immediately for your troubles. Allahu Akbar.