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Eh? My only point is that you're misrepresenting what he said by pretending he said something he didn't say. Criticise what he actually said all you like but just making stuff up undermines anything else you say. And the success or failure of brexit would not be judged solely on economic grounds so on that basis alone you've misrepresented what he said.

We won't know the FULL economic consequences for a very long time is not him saying what you are pretending he said.

Have a look at aces and Scotland looking to become the first ACE aware nation. Its really interesting stuff.

There was an interesting bloke on the radio the other day talking about how social media has made this all much worse. It used to be that you got in a few fights and you could go home and no one would know. Now with social media, if you are humiliated then everyone knows about it and these youths feel they have to guard against this sort of humiliation. It takes a lot of willpower for them not to carry a knife in these circumstances. I can't say I totally understand it but I can see if you are brought up in that atmosphere why you might want to take a knife out. Not sure that it can be stopped though but tougher and greater numbers of police would definitely help.

More stop and search will help. As long as we can prevent the likes of David lammy calling people racist for suggesting it of course.

That isn't what he said is it. In fact you've just quoted him above and he didn't say it could take up to 50 years to know if brexit was a good idea. Not sure why you felt the need to misrepresent.

Ah well a loss was always the most likely result and at least we have a lot of positives to take for the rest of the season.

Really good goal tbf not much we could do.

Well this is a turn up! I still expect a loss but even a draw here would be absolutely amazing.

And she often posts like she plays football- awkwardly and with the suspicion that she's had a bit too much to drink.

That's a first. Verbal made me laugh.

Yes I think that's something we can all agree on.

Whilst I'm not calling for shamimas death, the upside to an IS victim sorting her out would mean that she would no longer be a problem. Just because I gave one example of what might happen to her- along with many other subsequent examples- does not mean that is what I am calling for. Hopefully that clarification helps you to understand it better.

Well it could be with us in the championship!

Firstly I was talking to unbelievable Jeff not you, who up until this point hasn't tried to misrepresent me unlike yourself. I know what I meant thanks because I wrote it and you can pretend you know what my inference was all you like. I have been very clear that I hope she never gets back into this country, that I'm glad the government are doing what they can to legally make it as difficult as possible and if she does not return then that is a positive thing. I've said the same thing from the beginning and now for some reason you're describing it as backpeddling. If this woman got killed out in Syria then of course I'm not going to be upset about it. There are actually IS victims like the coptic Christians and young girls who were sold as sex slaves and slaughtered that deserve sympathy. Now go ahead and ignore what I've actually said and instead say what you think I've inferred, that's an incredibly healthy way to have a dialogue with someone whose opinion you disagree with...

"others" being verbal and unbelievable Jeff! But go ahead, do the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and seeing what you want to see if it makes you feel better. Poor old shamima getting all that nasty "abuse" from British citizens. It's just plain old racism that they say uncharitable things about an IS member. You people are crazy.

OK I didn't realise when you asked me to list 3 possibilities that you were then going to go through each fantasy scenario and discuss their relative merits and likelihoods. Might I suggest that is an entirely pointless exercise? A Syrian Isis victim dishing out their own justice is also another possibility of course that could happen and whilst I'm not calling for that to happen, as I already said I won't be shedding any tears if it did. I'm struggling to understand what you're trying to get at here?

*waits for egg to reply with "you are hoping that a member of IS would contract an illness and die! You monster!

1) she gets a disease and passes away before she is allowed back. 2) Syria recovers to a point where they have a proper government and express an interest in trying her themselves for crimes against their people. 3) Another country takes pity on poor Shamima and offers her asylum. Obviously she could be killed or detained in a number of other ways but you only asked for three. Apologies if I wasn't clearer maybe I should have said someone or some thing.

By the way I love the phrase "reasoned inference" which is basically just a way of saying that you can just decide for yourself what someone is saying rather than what they actually said. Unfortunately it's a common reason for the spread of fake news and is something you should avoid doing. I'd prefer if we just stick to what is actually written by people rather than whatever biased and uncharitable reading you can come up with.

Hold on what free ride has jihadi Jack been given? He was laughed at because he gave some stupid answers to questions but the only reason shamima has been debated so much is because she's a female, because she was 15 and because she may have the legal right to have citizenship elsewhere and also because many were struck by how cold and unapologetic she was in her interview. There isn't even a debate about jihadi Jack being allowed back in and if shamima was male and wasn't 15 at the time she left she wouldn't have sparked so much conversation either. I don't see a load of bleeding hearts ringing radio shows and writing opi ion pieces crying about jihadi Jack and calling for his immediate return. I'd applaud the government for using any legal methods they can to make re-entering the country as difficult as possible for members of IS- no matter what their identity is- and I'm confident that's the majority stance of the public in this country Her skin colour has nothing to do with it and you make yourself look silly for suggesting it. I'm happy for Britain to use every legal power they have to prevent her return and ultimately if that proves impossible, then we will have no choice but to prosecute her to the full extent of the law in this country but I agree an international criminal court would be a good place to handle the case.

Quite right. The likes of "egg" veering dangerously close to the sort of views expressed in this tweet:

Squirming? Give me a break. You're the one making yourself look foolish by inventing things I've said and doing the classic thing of reading what you want to be there because it fits the caricature in your head. I said that hopefully the problem would be sorted out before she managed to worm her way back into the country and I didn't specify in what way it would be sorted because there are all sorts of ways. I then gave one example of how it could be sorted and I said it wouldn't bother me if that occurred. She could be detained indefinitely in another country for all I care which would also sort the problem. For some bizarre reason you're now trying to distort what I actually said. But sure you keep prattling on about honest interpretations. I'm happy for the UK government to do nothing to help her, I hope her life is as difficult as possible and that circumstances mean that she never makes it back to this country because I don't want her here. Let's remember this is the life she chose. I'd rather the media concentrated on victims of this barbaric regime than those who were part of it. She deserves no media attention and to be ignored.

And bednarek.

A) she's not a kid she's an adult who has been part of an extremist death cult for four years and expresses no remorse. She was fully aware of what she was doing at the time and continues to be. B) I didn't say I "wanted" her killed but if someone does finish her off I won't be shedding any tears. I'd be happy for her to face trial for her actions in Syria at some point if that was possible and that could conceivably mean the death penalty. If that happens I'll probably just pause and think of the people who were maimed or killed in the Manchester bombing rather than wasting any time on this individual who betrayed her country. This wouldn't even be a conversation if she was a male jihadi. Let's remember "pal" you're the one on the side of an isis member here not me. Disgraceful.