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I expect this one will be amended and is clearly designed to replace the ECHR one. In reality it isn't going to change much at all and certainly isn't going to lead to flagrant abuses of human rights like some on here seem to imply.

Absolutely. It isn't being scrapped, it's being replaced by a British Bill of Right which I imagine will contain similar stuff.

No but they did move to the right and we're closer to the right than they are now.

That's not strictly true I'm afraid. The majority of reactions from lefties on here has been hysterical, melodramatic flim flam.

That almost perfectly captures the attitude of KelvinsRightGlove.

Erm which is exactly what I said, that my voting is based on a number of factors so in reality not "selfish" at all. I wouldn't arrogantly call you selfish or uncaring just because you happen to vote for a mainstream party that is different to the one I vote for. Stereotyping all tory voters as selfish and unfeeling will do nothing other than make you look foolish.

Precisely. There is an extremely nasty and vicious undercurrent beneath the lefty exterior. A lot of the time it isn't even very well hidden.

So when you vote you never have a thought for your own situation and how policies might affect you? What nonsense. I'll give you an example, one reason I voted tory is I think they will be best for my business. The success of my business means I can pay the people who work for me more rather than myself. Now how is that selfish?

How could you possibly know that? I vote for a combination of factors which includes what I think is best for the country but also on the issues I care about and how things affect me. If you tell me that you don't give a thought for yourself or the issues that affect you when casting your vote then I'm afraid I don't believe you.

I don't think it would be anything like the wailing and gnashing of teeth we are seeing now.

Feeling is mutual mate. If you blindly vote for a party unthinkingly at every election then you really are a thick idiot.

Except I'm not a right winger. How do you explain my vote for labour 8 years ago? Quite prepared to vote for labour in the future if they are the best option. The difference between you and me is that I won't refuse to vote Tory even if they are clearly the best option. You are ever so melodramatic and it weakens your argument.

Agree with that. Would be great to see labour with some half decent policies and an opposition worth voting for. Say what you like about Blair but he was electable and inspired people to vote for him.

Your final sentence is beyond pathetic. Ridiculous.

I note distraught feminist is missing.

I have a friend who is exactly like some of you on here and I just can't understand his perspective. Absolutely despised thatcher to the point that he had a party when she died ffs. Thinks it is now the end of the world and wouldn't even consider voting anyone else but labour no matter who was in power and no matter what they did and it seems to me that this come primarily from his parents who are both militant labour too. In that circumstance you might as well not vote if you are just going to vote for one party by default.

Do you really think you are going to persuade people to vote Labour with an attitude like that? You're beyond help, go and get some perspective.

and the frothing at the mouth, bitter reactions keep on coming. Lefties showing themselves for what they really are. In five years time when the sky hasn't fallen in, will you be claiming otherwise?

I'm just surprised someone hasn't thought to blame thatcher yet...

Because they would prefer Conservatives in charge rather than a minority labour propped up by the snp?

You sound like Russell Brand mate. Tell you what instead of stamping your feet and throwing a tantrum, why don't you ponder why such a comparatively small amount voted for labour in those key marginals. If your only argument now is about how small the voting turnout was, then that applies to every single party.

Enough of the public saw through it to vote into government the Conservatives with a majority. No one else was close.

Or maybe people just simply do not agree with you that the last five years have been appaling? And they can remember the last time labour were in power?

Your tone right here is why I would find it very difficult to vote Labour again in the future. It's attitudes like this that have wrecked the Labour Party. Class warfare at its ugliest and thankfully the British public have seen right through it.

Heaven forbid that he actually won because people made a choice that he was the better leader and that the Tories are the better choice right now. No it has to be because we are all mindless sheep doing whatever Murdoch says. Give it a rest.