hypochondriac

It's not illegal and I don't consider it morally ambiguous either. If anyone had a real issue with it then the law could easily be changed to stop the practice from happening but they don't because it isn't an issue. It's not about cheating taxes, it's about securing maximum investment in the team in a totally legal way.

We clearly aren't. It's common business practice.

no he wasn't.

Well his father is a barrister so he comes from good stock.

No one is having a go at him, simply saying he's a bit embarrassing and makes people cringe when he talks. It's not the worst thing in he world but I would prefer that he let others be the club's mouthpiece.

The best bit in that article is when they compare Dortmund to St Mirren.

You should read this article and laugh your socks off: http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2015/10/jurgen-klopp-liverpool-manager-a-reaction/

We're up all night for Shane long We're up all night for Shane long We're up all night for Shane long We're up all night to get lucky.

Anyone remember the days of Chorley bullsh*t bingo? Anyone still have the bingo card?

Chorley??? Or mcmillan?

It's still a good pr exercise and a good idea to engage with the fans. It won't be as exciting as previous ones tbf but we are doing well at the moment.

Has anyone received their tickets for this yet? I'm still waiting for mine.

Great news well done the club.

What over reaction? Stating he is quite embarrassing isn't an overreaction, it's a statement of fact.

Perfectly acceptable to hold that view whilst praising saints in a number of other areas. Some won't have any criticism of any kind whilst we are winning though...

Manufactured and pre-written passion...

Precisely jackanory. You've summed it up...

Sorry Tim but you're the main culprit- going on about your mum etc. You're wrong on this one as usual.

You didn't but that was the basis of this discussion in the first place (that loads of people voted tory simply because of what they have read in the papers.) clearly the main reasons they lost are because their policies were rubbish and Ed was rubbish. Acting like it was because of brainwashing from the media does a disservice to the average British voter.

Good I'm glad we agree. Let's not pretend that labour lost because the public were brainwashed by the media then.

Yeah it has. If you read what I wrote then I wasn't the one claiming that about older people. It was the likes of Tim saying it about his mum, I don't believe it to be the norm except in a few cases.

Eh? I know they do but it appears that the younger generations aren't afflicted as badly with the swallowing whatever the paper tells them gene if the experience of posters on here is anything to go by. Given time this should mean that this apparent influence will diminish.

Of course media has an influence and I have never pretended it didn't. But some on here are vastly overestimating the influence of the media and suggesting that the majority are a bunch of gormless idiots unable to formally any opinions for themselves. I don't believe that is true and I don't believe that people voted conservative because the paper told them to.

That's the typical left wing response and one I reject. It's easier to pretend that the majority of the British public are brainwashed and easily influenced by the media rather than the truth which is that the majority of the British public simply don't want what the left are selling currently. The idea of a passive audience died out for advertisers a long time ago- maybe those who blame the media when people vote conservative should do the same. If only the media hadn't existed then ed would have won by a landslide right?

The good news is that even if there are this mass of geriatrics voting the way the mail tells them, it appears that the young aren't afflicted with the same gullibility so hopefully it will die out in time.