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Many would die for their beliefs but even if that were wrong, you aren't suggesting that that one person on radio 5 is speaking for all muslims are you?
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OK so you do believe that muslims living in the West is a bad thing. Apologies I thought your argument was slightly less xenophobic and borderline racist than that.
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What do you mean by the growth of Islam? What does that entail in the West? Do you mean Muslims living in Europe? Are you suggesting that Muslims should not be here? If that isn't what you are suggesting then what do you mean? I see allowing people who want to contribute to society and to practice their beliefs safely to live in the West is a good thing. Thankfully the vast vast majority of Muslims do that and I an thankful for them and that I live in a country that gives people the freedom to believe what they like.
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What do you mean by the growth of Islam? If you mean muslims living in the West then I have no problem with it at all. If you mean extremists being allowed to preach hate here then I agree they shouldn't be here.
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Who said anything about fading away? I expect over a long period of time something else will come and take their place as has happened through all of human history. And it is a few nutters clearly unless you think it's a large percentage of the Muslim population (in case you are under that illusion, it isn't.)
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Yep. How many radical islamists do you reckon there are as a percentage of Muslims on the earth?
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I'm not solely blaming the West. They have to take their share of the blame though and it can't be denied that they have contributed to all this.
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Clearly there has been a rise in this sort of thing since 9/11.
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Bletch has done a much better job of answering your questions above. Why is it that 99% of Muslims are inspired by the teaching of Islam yet aren't going out to kill and murder? Could it perhaps be because Islam isn't actually telling people to go out and murder others at all and that the teaching has been perverted by a small minority for their own interests? Just a thought.
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How do you consider Islam to be at fault? How should "Islam" change to stop this in your eyes?
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Which just underlines the idiocy of those who think the actions of a tiny minority is the fault of the religion.
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So you agree that All it proves is that there is currently a higher proportion of nutters misusing Islam as a front to kill and maim, and that suggesting that these instances is the fault of Islam ignores the vast vast majority of peaceful Muslims? Yes?
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You've made this point a lot. All that proves is that there is currently a higher proportion of nutters misusing Islam as a front to kill and maim. That isn't the fault of the religion itself and ignores the 99% (who are the true followers of Islam) who don't go out to kill and murder others.
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Everyone living in Le Mans are terrorist sympathisers unless they all come out and condemn this.
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Thank goodness they did, otherwise we could have assumed that a billion muslims supported the attack. Phew.
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What would you suggest as a solution?
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I think their point is that the actions of the West in the middle east have massively contributed to the threat of these sort of attacks. I would say that is unarguable.
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Odd. Nick has been telling everyone that all Muslims have been covering this up and hiding them?
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What is the equivalent of the head of the church in Islam? Imams routinely condemn actions such as those against lee rigby. The problem is it goes unreported so you assume it hasn't happened.
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I agree. Anyone who harbours terrorists are wrong. In reality though how many does that consist of? As a percentage of the total Muslim population?
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I'm sure he can speak for himself but I don't think he was suggesting that would magically fix things, rather that it would be a start. The genie is already out of the bottle and there is no doubt that Western actions have made a significant contribution to the creation of this terrorist scum.
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What constitutes the community? And even if they are protected by some of their Muslim friends, why have you branded all Muslims terrorist sympathisers because of that? Is it because you've seen terrorist sympathisers plastered all over the media? I bet it is.
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Watching it endorses nothing. If anything it drives home how abhorrent the act is.
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Have you watched it?
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Why do you continue to lump everyone in together? Some bloke from Southampton who is a Muslim will probably have nothing in common with a bloke from Saudi Arabia other than the fact their religion is the same. If I were a Christian it would be like having a go at me for not rounding up Christian Extremists in Africa. It's utterly absurd and your idea that the majority of Muslims somehow support the abhorrent actions of the people today is not backed up by any shred of evidence other than your own prejudice.