hypochondriac

You're an intelligent chap, you can't seriously ask what is wrong with the terms being widened and not be aware of the implications of that. Canada agreed to have an assisted dying bill and then two years later expanded it to people with non terminal illnesses and it has now expanded so that you can be assisted with you death for mental illness. This includes someone with anorexia, a Canadian army veteran with ptsd was offered the option of killing himself unprompted and shante de corte from a different country was a young woman who legally killed herself because she was traumatised by a terror attack. Like I said plenty of other cases so not just an admin error like you try to claim. Once it expands it becomes an option for older relatives who don't want to be a burden on their children, or some children will no doubt put subtle pressure on mum and dad so they can get their inheritance faster. Some will view the option of killing someone as a heck of a lot easier than treating someone with complex problems. And of course disabled people have a right to be concerned about this law given that they will be the ones viewed by some as burdens on society, who are a net drain and so there will be pressure or at best a perceived pressure to do everyone a favour. That's before you even get into the details of the law such as the idea that you will be able to kill yourself if a doctor says you have six months to live (because that's never been wildly incorrect before.) So no it's not just about killing someone with a few days left to live because it actually affects a heck of a lot more people than that and they need to be heard.

The existence of the vote and the makeup of the commons means it will almost certainly be labour MPs that get this passed.

I'd watch the documentary if I were you rather than arrpgantly dismissing what she has to say. It's also a view passionately espoused by Tanni grey-thompson. Also have a look at Canada with the horror of some of the assisted dying over there (or someone who asked a local council over there to fit a ramp for her and she was given the option to kill herself instead.) or the fact there's not a single place where this has been legalised and then the original terms of what has been agreed hasn't then been widened to encompass more people. Also Google shante de corte. I can give you myriad other examples from all over the world if you like.

I actually don't care about the winter fuel payments I just like that Starmer rhymes with granny harmer.

It's the motivation behind policies that I have a problem with. There's nothing hysterical about questioning policies designed to raise money if they don't actually raise any money and create problems instead. You're then left wondering what the motivation is for enacting them beyond penalising groups that Labour are ideologically opposed to. A Labour minister engaging in playground politics, selectively quoting an article about embossed stationary as if that's a representative example of their private school Vat plan is pathetic really but it is enlightening about what some of them think and why they're targeting private schools in particular (and of course many of their children attend these schools but with their freebies and salaries the increase is no skin off their collective noses.) If you look back to the earliest part of this thread, one of the first things I posted was giving Starmer credit for being ruthless in order to attempt to be successful. That was just a few months ago and it seems like a lifetime. I don't understand why the government has gone out of its way to punch itself in the face repeatedly. I know you think it's all overblown and there's nothing to see but they've scored so many own goals that are just unnecessary. Maybe this sacking and reshuffle is an acknowledgement of that and maybe their messaging will improve? Maybe they have a couple of rabbits to pull out of hats for the budget? They could certainly do with being a bit bullish and positive about Britain, if only for consumer and investor confidence.

The politics of spite

We haven't even had the budget yet. Are they going to whack up capital gains? Will we see interest rates climb so mortgage rates bounce up again? Interesting to see the guardian of all things suggesting that the private school vat policy is more complex than they thought (won't really raise much at all it's just a policy of spite.) we've had the same thing about the non dom policy which is now projected to lose money. Will they plough ahead with them anyway? Then we've got the possibility of legalised killing to look forward to. If granny doesn't freeze to death you can bump her off another way. The fact it's all being done with halfwits like Lammy and Raynor in power is just salt in the wound. Like you say a grand old start.

I wonder if you'd be imploring others to get out more if they were having a chuckle at a Conservative government shambles after less than 100 days in power? I think we know the answer. Labour full of integrity though.

In sort of a morbid curiosity sort of way I'm kind of interested to see how man city will mangle us in a few weeks.

Onuachu Archer Fraser Downes Lallana/Fernandes Dibling Would give us more a goal threat than we've had so far.

"it's called integrity,weve not seen it for a while." lol.

Guardian, 7 July 2024: "The grownups are back in Westminster. The Tory psychodramas inside No 10 have been replaced by a serious Labour government focused on delivery. It’s going to take time for all of us to make the adjustment..." Aged like milk that...

Ironically that was one of our best performances of the season which probably tells you why we are getting relegated. I'll take the positives of Archer getting a good goal which will help with his confidence. It feels to me like the next game will decide Martin's fate. Onuachu has been shamefully sidelined wheb he looks like he deserves a chance at the very least.

This may be a bold prediction but there's no chance this finishes with us on a clean sheet. Playing this way is suicidal and it feels like only a matter of time. We have been no threat at all. I predict this ends 3-0 and Marton uses the first half as evidence that his style of play works when imo it suggests the opposite.

How is playing like this-particularly against the big boys- in any way superior to an ultra defensive hit them on the back quick transitions style? I must be seeing something quite different to Martin.

Our style of play is utterly retarded. 0% chance we can play 90 minutes like this with no goal threat and not concede multiple times when we get tired. Madness.

All signs point to us getting thrashed and the decision to play Manning in a Premier league match will be widely mocked.

Well done for calling it out. Like you say it's wrong no matter what party engages in it. Hopefully there can be more clearly defined boundaries because asking them to mark their own homework isn't working.

Do they punch themselves in the face?

Well yes but I've never seen a black person described as a neo nazi. I wasn't even aware that was possible.

Isn't that man black?

I think people will care. Does anyone remember the journalists shouting at Johnson asking how many children he has?

Good to see Sam Gallagher getting a goal against the skates.

That would be more understandable if these people weren't already millionaires. On another note this could get interesting - understand the messenger isn't the most reliable but if it is true then surely a matter of time until it breaks.

Quite. Like I said they're all at it.