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And would be a quality signing and saints will be worthy of congratulations.

Would hope this bloke is just padding for the squad and not in place of one of our targets.

Sounds like quite a good signing then. I would hope he isn't our only incoming cb though.

Yes. Tend not to watch West Ham though as they are awful.

Kruger has set his stall out and said judgement day is September 1. This to me means we need some really impressive signings for him to have any credibility. The likes of Rojo is a legitimately impressive signing and a player who is arguably too good for us so to get him would be a big coup.

Can't say I have seen much of Winston Reid. Any good? And if he is at West Ham would they want to sell?

Again, appears to be a downgrade on last year and not a very inspiring signing if true. Concerning.

Maybe my use of the word rubbish was too strong when I was initially disappointed at the calibre of player. How I feel is as I expressed in the previous post.

Any proof? No? I make an initial comment about most signings based on what I have seen and what I have read from others and having spoken to people. Tadic seems like a very good signing and Pelle I am unsure about. Bertrand doesn't seem like a great signing. Wanyama at the time seemed like a fantastic signing and I thought Lovren was a good one too. Also thought Ramirez was a great signing but have proven that maybe that is not the case there. Just because you would love me to slag off every signing saints make does not make it true. My opinion of Bertram is that it seems like a poor signing and I'm underwhelmed by an average signing considering our money in the bank and who he is replacing but I hope he does well.

TBF I think that is a reasonable view. I'm hopeful that our other signings will be a step up from the likes of Bertrand and then this signing may be ok.

Didn't look very managed to me when we lost Chambers.

No they don't. No one would have "moaned" as you put it had we signed Rojo (still might TBF.)

The only reason you said you couldn't be bothered is because you know it is untrue. Unless you can find proof of that nonsense claim then your point is irrelevant. Of course I hope he does well, it's a pointless thing to say because every single saints fan hopes that every single player does well for us.

Good post.

At no point did I slag off the signings of Lovren and Wanyama. I thought both were good signings and said so at the time. You have just made that up to try and support your point. With everyone we sign, we have no idea how they will do for us and we all hope they do well. Having said that, normally you have an initial reaction about the signing. Not sure why you are finding that difficult to understand but as normal Les you miss the point.

That's from yesterday. Has been denied.

On the face of it not impressed by the signing hence my initial reaction.

Still haven't seen much about what this guy is like. Any ideas?

Again, how does believing he is an underwhelming signing mean he will not receive support?

I disagree. I think he was very decent for us last year and certainly the type of player we needed last season. Reports for Bertrand are very mixed and he isn't the type of exciting signing I was expecting. I think at the moment we appear to have lowered our expectations significantly from last season a d it will be interesting to see if we manage to capture any of these big name signings such as Rojo where you feel it would be a real coup. As someone said yesterday, had we signed Bertrand up after getting in the likes of Forster and others then it would be less disappointing for some. Signing Bertrand on loan makes you wonder if this is now the level we are aiming at (lower half of the prem) and that's disappointing after the last couple of years.

What part of "we have no idea how he will do for us and of course I hope he does well" is being so sure of the outcome? Learn to read Les.

Signings at the standard of lovren and wanyama.

Our previous first choice lb is obviously what I meant. You were comparing him to Fox who he is clearly better than.

Shouldn't Bertrand be compared to our first choice lb rather than the backup?

Would clearly be a great signing. Not believing it till it happens though.