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Wrong again. These people are from Iraq but now live in the UK. Have spoken to many of them including other friends and acquaintances, been to mosques etc and seen this sort of discrimination first hand. Didn't mention my experience dealing with this sort of thing at work either. What extensive experience do you have then to make you oh so enlightened?

You obviously haven't seen the effects of these attitudes first hand then.

Pretty sure I explained what it represents already. For me it is offensive in the same way the burkha is.

Sorry I thought you were talking about playing. Officials, then yes I agree.

Where did I say it did? I didn't mention any other cultures or religions because I wasn't referring to them and I don't think it's relevant to this discussion. I've already said that segregation at this type of event is wrong and that would be the case whatever religion or culture they were from and whatever politicians they were speaking to. Muslim society dies have a particular problem in some areas of this from what I have experienced, ranging from mild forms of bullying to forced marriages etc. If the "AND" response is true then that's very disappointing.

Well really it's a biological thing more than anything else I would imagine.

Because it's a symptom of greater discrimination and inequality within Muslim society. The majority of Muslims are peace loving, friendly and hospitable who treat others equally but there is a group who do treat women as second class, who force them to marry people they don't know against their will and who don't think domestic abuse by husbands is wrong. Yes segregation isn't the same as those abhorrent views but it's a smaller part of a larger problem imo.

Probably not? Erm yes I have. Think I've mentioned on here before that my other half has relatives from Iraq including her father so yeah I've seen this sort of segregation and she's thankful every day that her father is liberal minded enough not to treat women like second class citizens unlike her uncle and aunt. I won't hold out much hope for an apology for your lazy assumptions though, lefties don't like to admit they were hopelessly wrong...

It's seemingly something that labour endorse. What other conclusion can be drawn when they seemingly see nothing wrong with this sort of segregation? Segregation like this is always wrong in arenas like this and should be tackled every time.

That was my impression. I know Christians who give away 10% of their wealth but it goes to charities. Very honourable it is too.

So is the alpha course requiring all those who sign up to donate 10% of their wealth to churches?

Odd then. The only ones playing this down are those who are left on the political spectrum from here.

Interesting that it's the lefties trying to play this down. If this had happened to the Tories or ukip then I'm sure they would be reacting the same way...

What do you define as a god flavoured pyramid scheme?

British values???

Whose that then? His supporters?

Reading the comments there are a number of people who feel let down by him and are wondering if this was part of a bigger plan all along. It certainly seems that way with the teaser trailer from earlier in the week. Others feel very pet down and wonder how he can support a labour government who have let the country down just as badly as the Tories in the past.

I've watched most of it because I think he's an interesting bloke even if I mostly disagree with him. This sudden u-turn is hilarious and to me shows his true feelings all along.

I expect he will alienate a number of his followers with that.

I heartily agree with four of them.

My favourite headline from the election was released today: Miliband defends his pledge stone

Did a lookalikie thing with a black woman and someone from planet of the apes...

I already said that. Seems the obvious choice to me.

Amusingly I also have a mutual friend with him on facebook!

Think it may be at the discretion of the mods and depends what it's for. Dune for instance with his planet of the apes thing quite rightly got an immediate ban.