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Ha ha! It took me 105 minutes to go up The Alpe a couple of weeks back at 7kmph. I couldn't spin my 34-32 it was just a grind. These pros are amazing.

Don't you have something better to do with your time ffs!

Never even been anywhere near. Got on leaderboard on short climb a few years ago. Not even top 50 now even though faster.

Half a team to be exact. Resignation date for Sept 17 was June 1st. Point wasn't necessarily to compare two different occupations just to use it to emphasise that VVD has the same right to seek altenative employment if he feels it could advance his career by doing so, same as I could. Remuneration doesn't come in to it either, what does leave a nasty taste is the role of an agent pressing for a move to line his pockets.

Why would anyone believe a fascist rag like that, unless they were congenitally stupid?

Not unbelieveable, just realistic! I'm good if we stick firm like we did with MS and VW and hold out for another season just not holding my breath or worrying about it. Sorry far more important thing to get knickers in a twist about in life, and if not I repeat; Get a f**king life!

Regardless of how much we paid that is the way the football industry works. Admittedly, not the same in education but the principle is the same. Sports people do not do it for loyalty, for them it's all about winning. With respect, VVD is unlikely to win much with Saints. Support the team/club not individuals. Anyone that thinks that we will be anything other than Prem also rans is frankly barking mad. Been the same since promotion to the top flight in 66, just the goalposts have changed in the meantime. We are only in a slightly better position than we were then. If you don't like it, go and support someone else.

I am the only one here who doesn't give a Shyte? If he wants to play for us, fine, if he doesn't, get rid. What is the problem? Oh and by the way I signed a permanent contract with my employers back in the day. If I'd wanted/needed to move to a different education authority I could have done so without penalty. How is he different? Regardless of the money, how many on here have switched jobs because it offers better prospects to be successful? Can't have it both ways! Also sick and tired of all the mongs on here dissecting and reading stuff into social media shyte. get a f**king life.

Dippers don't do The Sun

You are a sad strange little man.

If people were consistent the same attitude should apply to VvD. I don't see any difference.

Funny!

As funny as fook! Who do these people think they are. Talk about an over-inflated sense of self importance!

Wow, feel for Barguil. As for Richie Porte, what can you say? Horrible crash. Medical people at BMC reckon 4 weeks before he's back on the bike.

This sort of stuff makes us look like a bunch of sad arses!

He can **** off!

There speaks a man with a firkin great chip on his shoulder!

Yawn! Mind you I quite enjoy a journey through France from the air. Saw the Foret d'Orient signposted last weekend on the way back from the Alps as we headed from Troyes. Didn't realise it was so big, just looked like a few trees from the A26.

Problem is with Everton is that they have a history which predates an awful lot of posters on here. Therefore they have no point of reference for EFC. Those old enough recall a team in the late 60s/early 70s with a midfield of Ball, Kendall and Harvey and Joe Royle up front. They were different class. They even put 8 past us in 1971 at Goodison.

At what point do we get the wailing posts berating Saints for not making signings while all around us our rivals are signing up anything that moves. Would have expected Alpine to be showing signs of extreme angst by now.

"It's the sprint. I just didn't know that Mark is behind me, he's coming from the right side," Sagan added. "Mark was coming pretty fast from the back and after I just didn't have time to react, to go left, and he just came (into) me and after into the fence." On the one hand he says he didn't know Cav was there, but then implies he knew that he was coming up from behind. Can't have it both ways. Still very harsh. Sagans' deviations were the result of poor riding by others in the sprint which forced him so far right that Cavendish was squeezed out eventually.

Tend to agree. Sagan should not have been DQ'd. Cav had picked up ADs wheel after the last turn when the sprinters and the LB lead out man move to the left hand side of the road David Millar referred to as a stroke of genius by Cavendish on the live ITV4 commentary. With around 250m to go as Griepel's lead out drops off to the right there is a huge space on the right hand side. Cavendish is still on Demare's wheel and they are just about the only riders on the right. Kristoff, Bouhanni and Sagan are line astern on the white line in the centre of the road. At this point Cav still has ADs wheel and Sagan is behind Greipel close to the white line also. I reckon the true culprit was Kristoff who moved right and failed to hold his line when in the lead, Bouhanni tries to get on his wheel and Greipel muscles in and wobbles pushing Bouhanni towards Demare who moves right to avoid him. Cavendish follows Demare, Sagan drifts right as a result of Bouhanni and Griepel's ropy riding and begins to narrow Cav's gap. It doesn't look deliberate on his part, however to state that he didn't know Cav was there is a bit disingenuous as the former had been following Demare for around 150m during which Sagan had either been slightly behind or level with him. With 200m to go Kristoff went further right squeezing the space even more. Within a few pedal strokes Sagan has got on ADs wheel but is still going right and Cavendish is about a foot from the barrier. Demare is already moving right and Cav is leaning into Sagan to keep himself upright. Shortly after the elbow appears to come out as Sagan tries to counter balance appearing to catch Cavendish at the moment he was going down. Unfortunately a racing incident, triggered by Kristoff and exacerbated by Greipel and Bouhanni. If the commissaires need to look at anything it should be what those three were doing and to Demare's crazy switch left. Hardly holding your line in a sprint. Sagan was merely the ball the knocked the Cavendish skittle over not the bowler. Harsh!

You utter tool

Lie down. That's good thing. It's only football. Far more important things in the world going on.

What the f**k is wrong with you?