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Look at the gates of the two divisions below us, the gates of the bulk of the teams in the CCC they are far below ours in terms of numbers and the yield per seat. After paying for the mortgage we had enough to compete with most of those teams. The preponderence of youth all at the same time reinforced with more youth that was clearly not good enough was our big problem. A lot of teams are better than us with a much lower budget but with competent experienced 2nd and 3rd level pros. It was a mixture we needed. Gasmi, Pulis, Robertson, Pekart, Forecast, Smith etc were a waste of money.

Absolutely correct because he would stll be capable of buggering it up with his unique approach to youth football.

Never mind about position, manager, finance, in my 55 years supporting this club, Rupert Lowe is the most devisive and universally disliked person that has ever been connected with this club. Until he is gone and his shares disposed of, this club cannot move on. We have a deluded chairman, a figurehead chairman both overseeing a complete mess. It is this mess and the arrogant demeanour, micro-managing, overbearing control freak, stupidity that has hacked the average supporter off.

Yes.

The man is a foreigner with no previous connection with the country whose only previous connection with SFC was Rupert Lowe. I have supported Saints since the middle fifties in the old third division south, a regional mixture of the bottom two divisions. I can say without any doubt whatsoever that Rupert Lowe is the most devisive influence this club has ever had to endure. No man in this city has been so universally disliked. Anything that Wotte has to say on that subject should be ignored. He has no history with the club, owes his allegiance to Lowe, and has no idea what the average fan feels about his chairman.

Quite! He wanted to stay up but Wotte waved him back. It was only at the last corner, and fair play to the lad he still queried it and was then told to stay up. That effecively placed two defenders in their own half and two midfielders came out to about 30 yds which gave our defenders more room to attack the ball.

Lots of effort, narrow 4-1-2-1-2 doesn't give a lot of attacking options but is hard to play against. Swansea played with width and outflanked us regularly, but Saeijs, Perry and Wotton did much to shut down the attackers. What really hacked me off in the last half hour, we dropped too deep and stopped pressing in midfield, that really caused us problems. We also, until the last corner, brought all 9 outfield players back for corners, that allowed 10 Swansea players within 30 yds of our goal. We needed to leave at least two up with a full team but at least one up with 10 men, when McLaggon stayed up it took 2 Swansea players into their half and two more out of our penalty area. Most forwards are poor defenders and don't mark effectively anyway, I would like us to leave three up, which would probably take four to pick up and a couple of more out of the box, That would then mean 4/5 attackers in the box to be picked up by 7 defenders, and also allow a quick cearance to counter attack. I think Lallana is at present unproductive and is better used as a sub. Euell could play more effectively and stronger in that formation. Alternatively McLaggon would give pace and a cutting edge in that hole position.

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The council want's to spend another £1m on social workers, another spin session with no substance to justify this waste of money. I see two gay men are deemed more suitable parents than the natural grandparents. Kids under the supervision of useless social workers have been murdered. Sociology degrees and diplomas and no common sense. We need less of the useless bureaucrats rather than any more.

Never mind the spin, let his record speak for itself. Namely, brought in Hone etc. Promised investment-didn't happen, Resigned allowing the execs to vote Crouch etc off the board, how stupid and incompetent was that? Resulted in overspending and compensation payments. So who is at fault? Lowe for the long term stagnation and detrioration, Wilde for most of the rest.

I'll see you inside then, unless there is anything interesting outside.

Hi Ron, Are you waiting for the march before going in?

Turn left, follow the road round, you can see West Quay, to the right/west end of the building, up the ramp, cross the road, hanger right to the roundabout, left to the bargate.

Best of luck, I can't make the bargate, see you at the ground.

If you are dropped off in the car park layby at the northwest / bottom side of westquay go to the end of the building and up the ramp at the side, cross the road, right to the roundabout, left to the bargate. If you are dropped off on the southeast/top side just go to the roundabout and left

Lowe/Wilde etc are unlikely to sell at less than 40p which is about £12m. That's why nobody will make an offer.

No pace in the middle four Ron. They didn't play 4-4-2 2nd half at Norwich. They only played McLaggon wide left with Lallana in a free roll running round the centre circle. James had nobody in front of him when he put in the cross on the 45 as usual, lucky Saganowski was on. I'd play BWP, Euell, Surman, McLaggon and leave Lallana out altogether. It won't happen, Wotte is too clever by half, look out for a revolution that will mess the first half up again.

That'll work Rupert, so how do we get to the turnstiles for the Itchen.

£60k police costs closer, fans kicking off v Doncaster did the trick then.:smt022

I suspect he had to ask for a transfer to get his release. The club wouldn't have to pay up his contract. They will then save a tidy sum. It's probably Hertha or another German side, he was made too expensive in the summer due to the fee required plus his contract, Hertha walked away because of it.

Skacel, I've been thinking about the rest, If Molyneaux at fullback Surman cml with Euell, or Surman lb and Euell and Wotton at cm. Surman is a bit easy to bypass in midfield the second one gives us a tougher spine. If we are going to keep the ball, Euell/Wotton won't work. It's a difficult one, especially as Schneiderlin and Surman were hopeless against Doncaster. Wotton isn't mobile and gives the ball away, but so does Surman and Euell. Probably the first one will give us a better attack and Euell is probably better than Wotton, It's a shame Schneiderlin is off the boil as he is the best passer in the side, but his workrate and attacking threat is poor.

Absolutely spot on.

Got your ticket yet Ron? Is it just the total away supporters or the whole northam end corner to corner?

I don't think we can recall him, similar to Raziak at Watford.

Good to see somebody getting to the byeline, see you are talking about lineup for Sat, see my post 196, is that team along the lines you are talking about?