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We're not judging him on his earning power. A six year contract says more abut Reed than it does about JWP.

We'll just back off until we are in our own penalty area and try and break or pinch a goal from a set piece.

There are lots of bright people around but that doesn't mean they are bright footballers. He isn't.

What a load of dross. WTF was Long doing in the left back position and stuck out wide. Three negative defensive midfielders against a makeshift Norwich team parking the bus. Martina and the midfield had countless opportunities to play the forwards through but ignored them and checked out. His crosses were poor. The team selection dictated the pattern, it turned out as toothless as expected except for us scoring, not that I wasn't relieved I didn't have to spend extra time waiting for penalties. Long was offside too often but he made some runs and the pass didn't arrive. I've got my ticket for more of the same against Arsenal but this time we'll be the team parking the bus.

More red top rubbish. If Schneiderlin couldn't get a game at MU how do you think JWP would fare? He lacks pace for starters and doesn't score regularly. If we weren't rotating he wouldn't get a game here either.

Yes but didn't stand out as an established international playing with kids should.

No Premier team has tried to buy him.

The transmission wasn't great, kept pausing and repeating commentary. The performance was tepid, slow and a bit weak. I only saw the second half but the Saints midfield looked like an open door. Arsenal just walked through for the goals. We had one up front, slow build up no real penetration. what is it with Saints? Nobody seems to want to take a defender on. As soon as somebody appears in front the ball goes sideways then backwards or backwards. No running the channels and quick balls. Isgrove has gone backwards since Barnsley.

I have a season ticket and go to all home matches. The one advantage of being there is seeing what the camera doesn't see, the overall picture and what players are doing off the ball which gives me a view, both good and bad, on certain player's play that if I only watched on TV I wouldn't see.. When it comes to issues involving the ball the camera and the replays give a view that cannot be replicated at the ground. One look and it's over, be distracted and you've missed it. Using replays the camera misses nothing. The more important the issue the more time it gets.

How are things with you now Bill? A very good synopsis. playing one footed players on their wrong side is adding to the problem.

Playing players where they are not comfortable makes them worse. If all the players were in their natural positions playing in a shape that they were comfortable with would make the team much more fluent and speed up the attacking.

The striker needs support so we need to play two up front. Redmond and Tadic mostly on their wrong sides were hopeless, slowed it down, came back across the field all the time, never got to the bye line or managed to pick out an attacker with their scuffed crosses mostly short at defenders, despite having a lot of the ball. Just allowed the defence to mass. How we played against Liverpool. It's time JWP was permanently binned. Can't Run, beat a man, tackle, shoot or head, his mythical delivery rarely ever troubles defences, his passing is just negative. Hojbjerg was poor and tentative early on but the longer the game went on the better he got, there is a good player in there we need to get him playing. Long had one of his most competent games up front on his own and worked hard but no support, a striker short and no proper service. Romeu was solid but gave away several needless free kicks, however he had a decent game. The back four was solid but Yoshida didn't look as confident as he was on Wednesday. It looked like a set piece was the only thing that could trouble us except for a break in the last fifteen minutes with VVD staying up front. The tempo was much better but the set up just looks all wrong. 11 goals from play in 21 league games says it all. We need to get another attacker into midfield with both Long and Rodriguez up front, two defensive midfielders is enough. Tadic and Redmond could play with Rodriguez behind Long but only if they play on their natural sides. Rodriguez looks stronger as he gets more game time.

1 hour before.

No chance of that, instead of playing Long up front supported by Rodriguez, Redmond on the right and Tadic on the left we will probably end up with the non scoring midfield, Romeu, Davis and Clasie in front of the back four with the non scoring Redmond on the left and Tadic on the right with an isolated Rodriguez up front. Even at his best Rodriguez never performed well as the front man but either came in off the left or combined with Lambert and Lallana. I just hope I'm wrong and Puel will pull a high tempo, hard pressing rabbit out of the hat. Logic tells me it isn't going to happen. I've pretty much reached the stage that I don't really know why I'm still going, as I just don't enjoy the negative, sterile dross being played this season apart from a couple of matches where we deviated from the norm.

Tickets on sale to ST holders from 1900 tonight. Usual cheapies, concessions £10. Kingsland closed at the moment so ST seat not reserved. I've ordered mine.

Forster, Soares, Fonte, VVD, Bertrand, Romeu, Clasie, Redmond, Rodriguez, Tadic, Long. 4-2-3-1, no way it'll happen.

Eventually it'll dawn on somebody it might be worth playing Rodriguez and Long. five players in front of the back four can't buy a goal yet we only play one striker mostly not down the middle. Again although I didn't see it but listened to the commentary trying to defend a lead with everybody back is a nonsense as it's impossible to clear the ball.

It doesn't matter what Reed says except in the short term, If we go out of the cups, don't satisfy the crowd with both style and results, the atmosphere at SMS will become increasingly toxic. The booing at the end of the WBA game is just a small example of the lid coming off the powder keg of supporter discontent. Puel has to change or he won't survive especially if Kat, Krueger and Reed get booed.

Nothing on the club site and he's training normally in the gallery.

Not wrong about the midfield, lack of goals or the team selection. I don't think Fonte needs to undermine the manager, Puel is doing a pretty good job with his tactics. The scary thing in the second half of the season everybody knows our limitations and we may well pay a heavy price for our limitations and tactics. If Fonte is having a go about it he's spot on. We need a big change PDQ.

To put rotation in perspective, Christmas 1946, 25th Barnsley A 4-4, 26th Barnsley H 1-1, 28th Newport County H 5-1. No flying or motorways, probably train/coach. Used 13 players, 9 played in every game on heavy pitches with a heavy leather ball and in leather boots, no substitutes and players played full game. We used 18 players and only Romeu and Forster played all three.

I personally will cut him some slack. He and VVD who is exceptional are amongst the best pair of centre backs in the league. Fonte has lapses especially with his delays in passing and then dropping somebody in it. Yoshida is worse and is always only a slip away from a goal. Swansea made a mistake letting Williams go, look where they are. Lots of teams have paid enormous sums for failures and bench players at centre back. We have Gardos and Yoshida that really aren't good enough to be the regular centre backs albeit internationals. Yoshida and Fonte aren't a good pair but Yoshida gets by playing with VVD but not with Fonte. There is a massive upheaval in the pipeline by just reading the signs. We need our best players to stabilize the situation. There is no guarantee any player we bring in, probably from abroad will be a total replacement immediately. I don't think we should entertain letting anybody leave in January even if we bring in a replacement. We need to bring in a goal scorer for midfield and a striker, strengthen not weaken.

Puel arrives, immediately changes a successful team, introduces a new system coupled with excessive rotation, which doesn't work either, brings in 4-3-3 with one striker, we manage to only score eleven goals from play in twenty league games, now lost three successive games, so that obviously doesn't work. Now the captain wants to leave amidst numerous rumours of discontent in the club which puts us in a dangerous position. This sort of scenario in a club can quickly result in a collapse of confidence and morale leading to a tumble down the league. For me it needed a manager to come in and build on the successful early months of 2016 not change completely, seemingly alienating players and fans with the sterile, negative toothless football no self respecting manager would try and justify. Yet Puel doesn't seem to be aware how close to the Premier league cliff edge we are playing his way.

The way Puel immediately changed how a successful team played and more importantly were comfortable playing to the diamond which he rapidly had to change to 4-3-3 which isn't working either especially with his team selection, excessive rotation, etc has put him at odds with supporters and set himself up for a massive fall unless successful. The players have every right to have a row with the coaching staff if they sense failure and don't believe in the coach. If there isn't change he has to go.

We don't play like a team just a collection of individuals picked on the day. There just isn't any chemistry in the play just going through the motions. WBA 68% possession one shot on target, a header from a corner, lost 2-1 just sums it up. Hitting the back of the stand doesn't count.