SaintRobbie

We'd still have Lowe and been relegated and have had EVEN less supporters thereafter. The only difference between now and that analogy is minus 10 points to be fair. This idea that its the fans fault is irrelevant. Supporters support for different reasons. I suspect 500 actually thought Wotte and JP were not worth supporting given the entertainment and lack of fight they provided let alone what they thought of Lowe. Nah. If your teams led by people who cause disunity, make crass financial decisions and buy mediocre kids and Dutch fantasists, the reality is 500+ fans will sadly not want to watch the pain. And guess what... they have a choice. They're still red and white in my eyes though. Its called reality.

Makes a change from being called soooo troll. 19 is improving.

Even though he's crap on the pitch tactically and as CB Fry has eloquently pointed out has relegated 70% of the teams he's been with? Initial stability can last 24 hours after the takeover, but please no longer. The easiest way the new owners can win over the vast majority of fans is to put in a new manager. Sticking with Wotte will just cause division and smells of a failed past. Nah 19, blokes crap - loyal or not, there are better out there.

Good post Weston. We're all winners less Barclays who ironically did the best act in Saints recent history as it may turn out in removing Mr Lowe forever. They deserve better! (except they are bankers)

We saw many 'better the devil you know posters' on here last June. It wasnt though was it, after Wilde re-appointed Lowe.

That's value for money! What a top bunch of admin'ers you are!

Yes. Good point.

Minor correction Alps.

Please no. Not on this forum... afterall I suspect most of us come on here to avoid such TV programmes! More legs though!

Nice one. Is that a permanent increase or tempoary? Can you surge memory for key events? ... just interested.

Takeover AFTER selling and releasing their best players... mmmm.... I think the fishy friends are going to struggle next season.

Question is - is it going to cope with the traffic of the next 24 hours?! How much memory you increasing it for Steve?

lol! He does seem to share the same collection of friends. 19 Canteen seems to type far more sense though.

LOL! I think Lowe has gone for good Jay... but we'll sadly always have half an eye on him. Post Traumatic Lowe-Stress Disorder!

Not small-minded. Mentally scarred by continually bad stories and actions by Lowe morelike. Richmond is right to be suspicious. Afterall, not many of us dreamed Lowe would return again last time to make it even worse and certainly not enough of us who could protested. This time, I hope - and suspect - that his well-founded suspicions are not necessary.

lol! True. Slightly terrier-esque when I know I am right. ...although the difference between me and Lowe is that my points attempt to provide (continuous and dull) CPR to the poor beast rather than beating it further down!

Good point - like most media stories, including almost all in The Echo over the past month! As I say though Steve, if you or I were Sale and about to run a Saints story, we might consider ringing our old friend and the previous boss for his comment... but then if he's been daft enough to support Lowe in the past maybe Sale is daft enough not to bother fully researching the story anyway. Either way, its pretty poor journalism when extracted from here! That said, those who have monitored this site and its predecessor for years generally know when to stand up and take notice of the odd poster. It's a credit to you and the gang Steve!

Richmond's right though P&M, whether in this case Lowe's involved or not or whether it is relevant given the Swiss deal seems not to be connected to Lowe. Lowe never seems to give up flogging a dead horse - especially one he's killed himself. Until we have new powerful owners, he'll be looking with interest at this club, even if he cant return... deep down he's arrogant enough to believe he SHOULD.

True, but then MANY have. What's more, if I was Sale and about to run a story I'd perhaps ring the old chairman - a good friend - for at least a view. I think its irrelevant anyway. Lowe is not associated with the Swiss deal which looking likely to be finalised VERY shortly, possibly today. What does worry me though is that if Lowe still can (whether he has or hasnt) demonstrate influence over some in the media, with regard to Saints, could he still do so with his other friends? Mr Wotte I recall, numbers very highly in Lowe's personal friends list. Watch the interview he did with the BBC when he was thrown out by Barclays for confirmation... too close for comfort methinks. Time for new owners, new management, new players and a new start! Roll on the optimism!

Sale and Lowe are well known to have communicated over the years and are friends. Sale has run a number of stories for Lowe - in support of Lowe (mmm credibility!) - over the years. Now, attacking the preference of the MLT deal by Fry is interesting. MLT has been very anti-Lowe behind the scenes and as I recall openly critical in the early stages of the bidding wars. To be fair to Fry, he sought a solution through Pinnacle that may have been well supported financially (it was not at all in the end) but also Fry was looking at this solution that was best for the club in so many other ways - morale, MLT, confidence and guaranteed fan support. Whilst I am sure that Fry has the regaining of £s at heart for his employers, he was right to support a bid he thought had £ AND had the intangible X factor for success of the club. Why Lowe is now getting involved, through Sale, is interesting. Sour grapes with MLT? Doesn't like Fry as he has disempowered him? Involved in a rival bid? (the latter unlikely methinks but not impossible given Lowe's track record of re-emerging despite being a failure, doesnt know when to give up despite flogging the horse he killed continually). Either way - I would view this story with some suspicion given that it is written by Sale, who has strong links to Lowe. But, on the other hand I would suggest that Fry does need to be put under ever-increasing pressure now to sell this club quickly to allow the new owners AND A NEW MANAGER to rebuild fast and challenge for the play-offs this season. I think Fry IS now working hard for that, I think we'll be Swiss very very soon.

Nah. Only one man brought us to the jaws of extinction... and he isnt in that picture. ...and he should've concentrated on what he knows; retirement homes.

Agreed... we just have hope.

Just noticed that if you add some letters and take some others away from 'Liebherr' it's actually an anagram of 'Sack Wotte.'

I still cant work out MF's motives in pulling the plug though. Thats the real mystery. Why get so close and lose so much money whilst making yourself look daft? Lack of guts?

Swiss consortium worth billions will take over on Friday. .... or maybe not. But, probably soon... sod it... 'No Change Genk' !!