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I don't know mate, but perhaps they saw him staying beyond that contract. Who knows. I don't.

You lot were given a bad press Del, but I have little sympathy after THAT curry house night. Some things can't be unseen.

What about, what about, etc. It's nauseating. People need to realise that this was bloody serious.

If correct that's better than was feared by the club.

I've followed it for years, hence my strong views. If you haven't seen Hamza Saadah, check his insta. Countless video interviews with Israelis, including IDF soldiers, on an off the battlefield, and kids including talking with them in school. Thet celebrate and call for the death of kids and babies. It's sickening. It's clear that they're indoctinated, yet the western masses have this mistaken belief that they're a peaceful lot. Bewildering, and very sad.

Utterly disgusting. Alas, with their US partnership and weak West, they'll carry on expanding, killing, maiming, etc, etc.

You mean this junior employee who "cocked up", costing us what it did, and then given a contract. That junior employee? The optics of that are terrible...if he cocked up, he should have been binned, and his evidence would have been that of a scorned employee. As you say though, you don't actually know what happened, me neither. One breach being a mistake, barely believeable, but okay let's roll with it, but we admitted 3 breaches. Three. And let's not forget that this EFL found (and we can't go behind that finding) that this was a top down instruction, and given that Tonda is in the FA dock, it's reasonable to assume that's the source of the top down instruction. Let's see what the FA say, but that it hasn't been done and dusted before now suggests that there's been a bit going on behind the scenes.

Forgetting, my arse. However you cut it, we, as per Canada, spied on training to gain an advantage, and filmed or tried to film it surreptitiously. The similarities are clear as day... unless you're a Saints fan who refuses to acknowledge them.

Boom!!

I think there's similar pre planning here. Our offence looks more amateur than using drones, but the similarities are there - observing without being seen, and attempting to record.

It's how I'd argue it. The Canada ban was 12 months, but in a situation where 8-12 games were likely to have been played. Replicating the 12 months in domestic football puts the ban at 50+ games, which equates to 5 - 6 years of female international matches. That's how I see the Canadian precedent should be applied fairly.

Them being able to give it, but it being disproportionate, are different. It's a "they could, but they shouldn't" scenario.

I'm sticking with 8 - 12 games. I don't see anything more as justified.

Take it as you will mate...just passing on something which I hope isn't credible or correct!

You cannot expect me to answer that.

Thinking back, I think that's correct. I'm not sure where I got the idea that it was similar re the other 2, so I must be wrong about that.

Significantly more than the mooted 6 months. Significantly.

Same day appeals are normal, and shouldn't take long to prepare. Essentially, you're saying that they initial panel got it wrong, and you don't need long to prepare why you say they got it wrong. The issue we had with the EFL case is that we chose to replace counsel prior to the appeal, presumably because she didn't do well.

I thought that was our position, but am happy to be corrected if I'm mistaken.

From what I'm told today, that's much lighter than the club fear.

With the FA, hopefully, but we can't undo our approach the EFL, and I'd imagine that Tonda will maintain his "I don't know the rule" line, and that his instructions were apparently given to go prior to the cut off, but missed each time.

Yep, and that kind of approach, coupled with the "I didn't know the rule" line, and our "nothing either see here just give us a fine" line, will do nothing to help us. When you've been caught playing with a wonky bat, and are in shit, you don't insult the intelligence of the people dishing out the punishment. It devalues any apparent remorse.

I've heard that the club fear a very, very long ban. Can't see it, but there it is.

If Tonda's instructions were to do it when we were allowed, and as much as I take your point, the panel may conclude that there was a breach following his initial instructions and that the buck stops with him. There's certainly mitigation if not a defence. Let's see what happens.

I'm surprised that any manager has come out and said that, and I don't believe what Harris says about his view being the popular view amongst managers. Really classless behaviour from a classless bloke.