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The difference is that the bloke who delivers my takeaway here can speak more English than the average ex pat can speak Spanish. That's the point. The word to describe that is "fact", not anything you were thinking.

That's a good start to the day. Thank you. You know I'm correct though. I can guarantee that when you were living in Lloret De Mar, you were a Sun newspaper, pint and full English at Gary's Cafe kind of man. Hypocrite.

Limitation usually runs from knowledge. Until the findings against City, I can't see how there was knowledge.

And they'd dominate the league, meaning less of a chance for promotion for clubs like us and other former PL clubs who were prejudiced by their cheating. Basically their "punishment" hurts us. They'd bounce straight back up anyway. That's not justice. Make them fight their way back through the leagues.

You mean like the majority of British ex pats who choose to live around other ex pats, drinking in English bars, eating a full English, and who's local language knowledge extends no further than ordering a beer and a full English. I'd hazard a guess (and it is that, granted) that more immigrants here grasp our language much better than than our economic emigrants do in their destination of choice.

I can't be any clearer when I say I'm not joining your wider discussion. I may consider it once you've linked me to your evidence that Judges (not the system, the people) are politicised, but I can't see why I would waste my time joining another discussion in which you'll you throw around your uncorroborated opinion.

Knowledge > perception.

There's no discussion if your head/echo chambers have convinced you of that. On that bombshell, I'll bow out.

Ha! Any half decent coach should be able to get a tune out of this group. Indeed, I think many would have got a better tune than Tonda has so far this season. Throw your hat in the ring. Get MLG in as your stats man, Whitey as your goalie coach, Duck on PR/comms, keep Lallana on as the stylist, put Garner back on the cones, and you've got the makings of a decent set up.

I'm intrigued how you think this works. Do you seriously think judges are taken aside at the judicial college and told they must go tough on fascists? And that appeal judges are ordered not to interfere with OTT sentences? Is that how this works in your opinion? You've made something up to suit your narrative. Pity you haven't got the minerals to do admit that.

Of the points made, I've commented only on the wholly unsupporrted allegation that Judges are politicised. The person making that allegation simply needs to evidence the claim or acknowledge they made it up. It's very simple. Re the rest, I keep telling you that I'm not debating with you, and I haven't, and won't. I'll acknowledge you no further.

I'm not having that debate - I've seen the squabble up there ^^^ and have no interest in joining in. If you could please post up your evidence that Judges (not other parts of the justice system, just the Judges themselves) are politicised, that'd be good though. Alternatively, you could just acknowledge that you made it up to suit your narrative.

Ha!! FFS, I'm not making any claims! Your man has said judges are politicised - that's for him to prove. I don't have to prove a negative.

It's very simple. Judges aren't politicised. That's the only point I've made to you.

Yep. The politics of perceived grievance, amplified by the echo chambers of SM. Trying to debate it is like trying to train a deaf and dumb dog. Absolutely fucking pointless.

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Credit to you for wasting your time with him, but why I'm not sure. When the concept of context is lost, you've lost all hope.

You base your view on perception. I'll base mine on reality.

Judges are not politicised, that's nonsense. Politics may find their way into sentencing guidelines, and before that policing and policy, but Judges merely operate within the parameters laid out. As has been said, the appeal courts are there if the Judge gets it wrong at first instance.

A multi season breach of that scale should have a sanction that bites for multi seasons. They'd still stay up with a 40 point deduction, possibly 50. That wouldn't give justice. I'd drop them down the leagues.

Club/manager, very different scenarios for me. I've been in businesses when the person at the top is serving out notice. Everyone knows they're going, they know they're going, respect deteriorates, the relationship just isn't the same, and the workers are thinking ahead to who's coming in next. It never goes well, and it'll be no better for footballers. I just can't see it working, and I can't help but think that knowing he'd probably be on his way has impacted our season already.

He couldn't realistically carry on pending an appeal if he and the players know he'll be going anyway. Our contingency will be Lallana joining the rest of the first team coaching team.

That's tempting, but the uncertainty over him wouldn't have helped us this season, and do we really want more of it.

That's because none of their offences were committed from behind a tree. They're small time.

And start again in the National League North. That'd be quite something. Bring it on.