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Doodle

Ok, so (all) people should be housed, but housing benefit to those who can't work should be scrapped. Without the benefit, they won't be housed. You need to join your own dots before asking questions.

People/families having a roof over their heads is not an "in an ideal world" thing. Assuming you agree that people should be housed, where/how do people who can't work, and fund their own housing, live? The streets?

So where/how do people who can't work, and fund their own housing, live? The streets? The solution to affordable social housing is to build affordable social housing.

Of course, but if immigration stood still, we'd still have a housing crisis. Private rents, fuelled by demand and supply issues, are unsustainable to the public and the welfare state. Cheap housing is massively needed.

Increase the availability of social housing and you'll lighten the benefit burden overnight. Out of interest, does your call to end benefits extend to housing benefit?

Up he pipes...any condemnation from you for the Israeli regime behaviour, or still no interest in the loss of Muslim life mate?

Iran didn't directly attack it's neighbours pre this war. Compare that to Israel. I've acknowledged above that their attacks on its neighbours since then are unacceptable. If it weren't for Israel lending UAE am iron dome plus men to operate it, they'd be obliterated. UAE's only "crime" was normalising relations with Israel, and they and their people shouldn't have had to live through what they have. Alas, the people of Gaza and Lebanon haven't had similar protection. If you've acknowledged the poor behaviour of the Israeli regime, I've missed that...

Sure... Lebanon, west bank, Syria, Gaza, etc. The death count, and ruined lives, across those areas courtesy of Israel is immense and unmatched...very odd imo that some choose not to acknowledge that and look for false equivalence.

In a thread about Israel, oddly enough, I've focused on the behaviour of Israel. That doesn't include how I feel about the domestic policies and actions of Iran, how I feel about their scatter gun attacks across the Gulf, their daft hold over the Strait, etc. It's possible to criticise the many actors in that region, plus the US, but yep, I'm in little doubt that the hub of the issue is the behaviour of the Israeli regime and it's ideology.

Within their borders, Iran are a disgrace. Outside of their borders, Israel more so.

Trip

There's bad on all sides of this situation, but I find it unbelievable that people can't see the Israeli regime for what it is, and that apparently sensible people like whelk come out with childish nonsense like that above.

You're better than nonsense like that.

If there was a propitiationate response, Gaza wouldn't be in the mess it's in now. Any condemnation for Israeli actions in Gaza, Lebanon or Iran?

Duck appeared to..."What has happened to Gaza is a consequence of Hamas’ actions that day" re 7/10. SoG may have got a season ticket for the conspiracy theory train, but I've got less time for the people, Duck included, who've not uttered one word of condemnation for the Israeli regime.

Absolute bollox. They had an opportunity and took it. Ditto Southern Lebanon. Iran was little more than an opportunity courtesy of Donny.

Damsel

I'm not sure what you'd have to be to be unwilling to see that Israel added all sorts of vat to the truth about 7/10, used it as a reason to decimate Gaza, and have acted disgracefully there and in Lebanon since.

Is it anti semitic to speculate about 7/10? The notion that Israel staged it is nonsense (there were Israeli hostages being held by Hamas, for example) but there's a case to answer re them having been able to stop it, and adding VAT to what Hamas did. I say give any Israeli state support a rest. They've been an utter disgrace, and still are on a daily basis in Gaza and Lebanon.

Is it anti semitic to speculate about 7/10? The notion that Israel staged it is nonsense (there were Israeli hostages being held by Hamas, for example) but there's a case to answer re them having been able to stop it, and adding VAT to what Hamas did. I say give any Israeli state support a rest. They've been an utter disgrace, and still are on a daily basis in Gaza and Lebanon.

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Banksy's statue - wow. Blinded by nationalism.

Please don't go all American and confuse liberals (centre left) with left wingers with odd views. But yep, Polanski has done himself no favours.