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Are you suggesting that the decision was anti-Semitic in itself, or that the decision was made to protect the Haifa fans from potential anti-Semitism? I haven't said that the decision was "solely due to disorder from the away club". You've made that up.

Because anti semitism is a thing.

I'm still recognising that there's a distinction between Jews and Israeli football hooligans. I've said what I think the real reason is - Haifa fans are scum, they pose a danger, and they're at risk. I don't think the latter is because they're Jewish.

I'd hazard a guess that a Jew could walk down the streets near Villa park and be absolutely fine. A group of aggressive Israeli football fans, chanting about raping Arab's and dead Arab children, probably won't be welcomed in by anyone for a cuppa though . It's not to understand the distinction here. If you choose to.

Yep. And what we know about his communications with Putin and Zelensky have done more harm than good.

That's a terrible comparison. It'd had some relevance if Pakistan had steamed into Indian Kashmir and killed 50k innocent people, pretty much destroyed the place, and starved the remaining people. Until then, it's just a daft point.

So you're making a generalised assumption about some people who's views you don't actually know. Of course though, some people mask their true feelings. There's plenty of that on display on this forum - that's not a slight at you btw. Back to the actual point. The Haifa fans have shown themselves to be abhorrent. I think they pose a threat, and I also think they'd be under threat. Different views are inevitable.

Dunno, can't speak for them, but I'm not sure what it's got to do with SoG. The stuff they've been filmed chanting and singing is an utter disgrace, and I can't imagine they'll have a red carpet rolled out for them anywhere.

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The source doesn't alter that the content is factually accurate. If the Saints match day programme said that the Haifa fans were scum, with details, some fans wouldn't have it.

Indeed. And don't forget SoG, Israeli people can now be referred to as Jewish people if you want to support Israeli people, but in any other situation, you must distinguish.

Any chance of the game of guess who being taken elsewhere please? I couldn't give a flying fuck who this Nic lad is.

That's a decent shout. I can't easily decide on a permutation that I think works with what we've got. I'm mostly at 433, with Aribo one of the 3 in the middle carrying the ball and breaking, and Fellows and AA or Scienza either side of Archer up top. That way we have the option of width either side, or the players cutting in and playing close to Archer. That boils to me preferring another man in midfield getting on the ball and using it, rather than having Azaz waiting for it, and the wide lads being a bit narrower and getting involved more. I wouldn't go with your back 4 personally, but you could roll a dice and there'd be issues with whatever 4 you came up with.

That's bollox. SoG refers to Israeli people as Jews - you say he's out of order. Badenoch refers to Israeli people as Jews - bang on apparently. That's a huge inconsistency, and a position used by people like you and Badenoch to support your position, and to oppose someone else's. What you've done here is essentially label all anti Israeli government people as anti semitic. That's bang out of order, and absolute nonsense. I dislike the murderous behaviour of the Israeli government. I dislike the various Israeli's I've seen footage of who champion the killing of Palestinian children. I dislike settlers who steal homes and land in the West Bank. That doesn't make me anti semitic. It says more about you than me if you cannot see that people can take issue with the behaviour of the government who lead a group of people, and the behaviour of some of the people in that group of people, but not hold prejudice against that group of people or the religion that underpins it.

I don't disagree that there's goals in our squad, but our only fit centre forward is Downs. AA and Archer are decent attacking players, but neither are centre forwards as such. Fellows and Scienza games are based on balls into the box. Without a CF Still needs to be creative - I recall a couple of games under Nicholl when he didn't have a fit CF so played 3 wingers up front and seemed to leave them to do what they wanted. But yep, the manager has got to work better with what he's got and make it work. Archer, AA, and the wingers, set up and coached properly, will be a threat.

What irritates is that people jump down people's throats when they conflate Jewish with Israeli, but choose to do it when it suits them. Pick a lane.

You've been listening to Badenoch. It's because of their history, and because they're Israeli.

Most clubs in this league would play THB, Edwards and arguably Stephens. Wood is also very well proven at this level. It's down to the manager how he coaches and sets them up. Charles would walk into any team in this league. A properly used and motivated Downes, ditto. The new lad looks decent. See comments above. GK. Hmm, but McCarthy is doing well enough. CF. Yep, we're properly shite there.

Yep. You could just cut the words "Jewish and Israeli" and it'd address the primary issue of the police not being up to the job of policing.

I think everyone has given him credit for his part in the agreement. Some people more than others, but he's received all but universal acknowledgement. I stand by the view that he has blood on his hands though for not reigning Israel in sooner, and for supplying them with so many appalling weapons. It also doesn't buy him exemption from the criticism for things that he says and does that merit criticism - life doesn't work that way, and you stamping your feet because people don't adore him is a touch soppy.

Who? I've had a go at him from the minute he first became President. I still think he's a complete idiot. Gaza hasn't changed that.

Israel haven't been able to distinguish between Hamas and Palestinian on a grand scale.

"CNN reports that all 45 Palestinian bodies returned by Israel were delivered to Nasser Hospital with hands and legs bound in shackled. They came tagged with numbers — not identities. Some were blindfolded, some bore gunshot wounds, mutilated and others appeared to have been run over by tanks". If this was the other way round, there'd be uproar.

The bit about "Bibi" calling him asking for weapons, and being given whatever he wanted, including weapons that they didn't even have but they made them for him, was bizarre. I'm not sure how that sits alongside the notion that Trump is the president of peace.

A Nobel peace prize nomination for being an unpredictable loon would probably be a first. But yep, knowing that even he doesn't know what he's going to do next carries clout.