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And there lies the problem - the belief that this mess is all as a consequence of 7/10. Of course, his episode in Gaza flows from that. What happened prior to that was mainly on Israel. What we're seeing in the west bank is on Israel. Many western governments have all but renounced this Israeli government but still they continue, seemingly cheered on by many. The solution does not lie exclusively with Hamas. You know that.

Err, it's Israel's stated aim to eliminate Hamas.

They didn't wipe out the PLO. Or if they did, they got Hamas as a replacement. Nobody can seriously believe that Hamas, or as a minimum it's cause and backers, will be eliminated by this.

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Lol at the daft cunts finding that funny.

More poor whataboutery, and rather misses the points that a) Ukrainians have an actual country b) that there's a wee bit more space to move people about in Ukraine and c) that 2/3 of Ukraine hasn't been destroyed. You can also throw into to mix that (according to the forum experts) Russia's army is fecked and can barely cobble together a tank or missile.

Why should Egypt absorb 2.3m people when the western world, the us included, can see that the logical solution is ceasefire and a Palestinian state. Do you support or oppose that?

This is not a war, it's revenge by Israel. The latter part is bollox. Hamas approach does not mean that they do not give a fuck about the civilians. By your rationale, Israel didn't give a fuck about it's people by their behaviour towards the Palestinian people - your point, if it's right, must cut both ways. Israel hold hostages too, thousands of them. They pick up more Palestinians a week (without charge or explanation) than Hamas hold. Regardless, your WW2 comparison was a poor one. Very poor. Of course, but apparently they're a terrorist organisation in charge of a non state.

Israel? The Palestinians don't have a state...

They're either a bunch of terrorists, or a government with an army. They can't be both. Regardless, it ain't remotely comparable to WW2.

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Terrible comparison. WW2 was a war, with actual militaries fighting each. This ain't a war. Hamas is a terrorist organisation. They have no military, navy, or air force. This is Israel smashing the shit out of Gaza (and detaining thousands of West Bank citizens without charge) in response to a terrorist attack. And the continued laughing at SoG's post are a bit pathetic. He's an idiot, but play the post.

This forum. Charles gets nothing like the flak that Smallbone does, despite contributing a hell of a lot less.

Agreed that he needs a holding player alongside him, and Downes is the best we've got. It's a shame that Charles has flattered to deceive as, on paper, he'd be a great pairing with Smallbone. On that, I find it surprising that Smallbone gets so much flak but that Charles gets an easy ride despite costing a fortune.

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My only real criticism of the lad is that he's not great at playing on the half turn which really slows us down. I like that he gets into good positions, that he uses the ball well, that he makes good runs. He's definitely not a holding midfielder, but I like that he'll do a job for the team. There's loads of people who don't understand the game who can't recognise what he does well, but jump all over him for what he doesn't. I met one bloke yesterday who thought he was atrocious at the weekend. I asked if he didn't like the 2 x assists, but apparently they don't count as everything else was apparently shit! Bless. I like the lad. A bit to work on still, but there's a player there.

And some people tell us he's a better option than Manning. The kid is a mile away from being ready.

Just coming in on this. Meghoma isn't a credible option, yet. Bree has been injured, and is coming back. Manning is the only option. Manning being out of position by taking corners on the wrong side is plainly on RM. Manning tucking in is also on RM. He did it in his first friendly game and has done it since. I agree though that he's not good enough defensively.

I'm not that a case can't be made linking who's getting the votes with the method. That said, I share your view that postal voting should be discouraged unless absolutely necessary. People should get to the polling station (and give ID) imo.

They voted for a principle in a protest vote, not the personality fronting it.

Ha!! I'm not sure that outcome would have been much different in a town with a lower Muslim demographic - that's a vote that's in step with the feelings of the masses imo.

Trucks escaping Israeli gunfire?

Agreed...but we'd have said otherwise if we'd won and not had any injuries.

Fuck me. That Adams throw says it all.

How is that goal on Manning? Danns was lost between THB and Stephens.