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First time buyers would be deluded if they expected to buy the average house. If they're willing to start low they have more chance. We're back to choice and expectation.

Yep. I remember the newsflash. First time I cried as an adult. Our mortgage payments became about 2/3 of our combined net incomes. Scary times.

No resentments here CB. I can't change that it was easier for my folks to buy than it was for me, and that it was easier for me than it will be for my kids. I accept the reality of that, and can't see a single benefit of whining about it, or acknowledging how much easier I had it. We'll have to agree to differ.

Yep. That's part of my point on entitlement. Some of the comments assume a right or a need to buy, and £100k either suggests a massive deposit so small mortgage, or a bigger starter home than is needed. Too many people confuse desire with need.

I don't see how it helps to harp back to how previous generations had it. Your resentment of it makes no difference to my kids abilities to buy property. Yep, tougher now, but your position is about as futile as SoG's original post.

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Gillingham at home please

To quote Turkish on another thread, you've gotta control the controllables. People in their twenties ain't gonna get far moaning about how tough it is now compared to when their folks were young. They have to face reality and make sacrifices and choices. That's not bullshit, just an uncomfortable reality. I lost 30% on my first house in the 90's, had hideous negative equity and only got out of the shit through exactly the choices and sacrifices I've mentioned.

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Entitlement gets on my tits. Life's about choices. Nice holidays, nice motor, no house, or a few compromises, own a house. If the big mortgage is too much, don't get one and rent instead.

You've gotta feel for the lad, but it's not an unfair decision. At his best he doesn't offer as much defensively as Rice, Henderson or Philips; as much offensively as Gallagher, Bellingham Mount, or Maddison. This season he's been way below his best, his passing has become negative, and he's just lost his mojo.

Holidays are all but a necessity. Foreign ones aren't. Outside of London, £300-350k buys something decent. 20% is £60-70k. With sacrifices, a working professional couple can save that in a sensible time. Drive a shit car, have cheap holidays, be sensible, it can be done. Leasing a nice motor each, insisting on getting on a plane for every holiday, expensive nights out, it won't happen. It ain't as easy as Whitey makes out, but it's possible.

To be fair, it will. Surveyors are already down valuing...market forces work in a variety of ways.

There's your answer on why it's happening. Anyways, anyone should surely be opposed to a cruel sport that encourages gambling? Repurposing that land for something wholesome like housing seems like a good thing.

Market forces will dictate house prices, and market forces will dictate whether developers prefer to develop from scratch or restore empty property.

I'll comment only on housing. We need more. They need to be built somewhere. Building houses addresses a need and drives the economy. It's a good and necessary thing. The country would be going downhill if we didn't meet housing needs, not because we are.

3 and a half year deal is longer than I expected. Nathan has done well for himself.

Speak for yourself Weston, I need all the help I can get on a Monday and a Wednesday - coke, coffee and haribos don't cut it anymore.

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A post on a football forum will sort that lot out SoG, good work 👍

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Clever, you international bright young thing.

Thanks for that, much better now, 502 errors earlier and last night.

We now have a full back and Djenepo at full back, rather than a CB and Djenepo. We also have Salisu having a rest. Makes sense to me.

Did you expect cartwheels after an equaliser against Sheffield Wednesday?