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It's a very simple issue. The wider public were not benefited by knowing more than they did. None of us needed to know that he had a manual and knocked up ricin. I repeat, a perception of an entitlement to information is not the test, it's what's in the public interests. We got the right outcome which suggests that it was dealt with properly.

There's no way of safely saying, and I paraphrase, "we ain't telling you knuckle draggers what we know cos we don't trust to react like decent human beings". It's tue that a criminal process could have been prejudiced, and it's equally true that the public did not need to know any more - yearning for information in some quarters is not the test, it's about public interest.

That's one perspective. Another is that telling angry people stuff that will fuel their anger is another. I think people encourage their own conspiracies, and an unchecked SM gives them a platform to air them, and have others fan the flames.

It wasn't in the public interests to release information that would a) inflame public feeling, and b) jeopardise the criminal investigation/trial. Both seem like genuine concerns. What's telling to me is this perception that people have a right to know stuff that they don't actually need to know. The key here was convicting this loon and we've done that.

Reading the stuff he read could just about be passed off as being inquisitive. Once he's implemented terrorist instructions, I think it indisputable that he's a terrorist.

This guy was both imo.

I think we all have misguided hope in that lot.

I challenge anyone to say, hand on heart, that they have never taken a leap of faith or put their faith in someone. We all have.

Yep. People assume that Christian beliefs, belief in a god, and subscribing to organised religion, are all connected. They aren't, and whilst disputes between organised religion has caused untold damage, living by decent principles hasn't.

Yep, twice. Bizarre to say the least.

Nobody has come up with a better plan than that yet 👍

Very true. There's a few on here that can't grasp that neither state wanting the other to exist, and that both states need to agree the principle of 2 states to even have a prospect of peace. That's basics.

Aye, we sure do. Entitlement/expectation/selfishness, etc, run deep.

Yep. Staggering that the majority of Americans think that they can get lots for nothing.

Lighthouse isn't an authority. He's just a bloke who agrees with your pro Israeli opinion.

Your various posts on here are all evidence evidence Hypo. And I don't agree with you. It's pretty stupid to want to see Hamas people taken out just as a ceasefire has begun. On the wider point , I've always taken the view that eradicating idealism is impossible, and that's still so. Killing lots of Hamas people doesn't get rid of Hamas or what they stand for.

Not one person on here has suggested that the murderous acts by Hamas are anything other than abhorrent. Sadly, you're one of the few who see murderous acts by the IDF as acceptable though. Wanting to see a grenade dropped amongst Hamas members after a ceasefire has begun isn't sensible thinking, despite what you tell yourself.

That's Ashleigh Plumptre, a white British lady born to white British parents in Leicester. She's about as Nigerian as a Greggs sausage roll.

Pathetic. If I mentioned killing a group of Nigerians I wouldn't have to mention that they were black. That much is obvious. And I'm not defending anyone, do you have difficulty reading? I'm criticising you.

It looked to me that those blokes were shielding them and making the transition happen. That said, the crowd cheering Hamas is a concern and I'd have thought their popularity might have dipped given the fall out from what they did.

You didn't have to mention the word Muslim when you're advocating blowing up a group of Muslims! Blimey. The rest is typically stupid. I've never defended the murderous Hamas in the way you've defended the murderous IDF, but I wouldn't want to see a group of their leaders blown up.

The images that he was sentenced for were mostly of kids aged 13-15. Without knowing the details of what each of these blokes had (frankly I don't want to know) it's impossible to draw any kind of comparison.

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I'm not sure you'll find too many catholic or protestant Hamas members. Regardless, it was a disgraceful comment. You'd have rightly been up in arms if a similar comment was made about "murderous idf leaders" or similar.

"Israeli media is reporting that the names of the captives have now been handed over to Israel. The mechanism of this is that Hamas informs Qatar, the mediator, and then Qatar informs Israel. It looks like this has now been done. What we understand is that these are three women that are not soldiers – possibly over the age of 50, or minors – so this should technically mean that the ceasefire is now officially on. Usually there is still some form of delay in terms of attacks, but there was a feeling that this was simply going to be a delay, that this wasn’t going to be a derailing of the ceasefire".