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To see Reform off, Labour and the Tories both have a mountain to climb. There's a long time to go, but if there was a GE tomorrow, we'd be waking up to a Reform government the following day. Fortunately it won't be anytime soon. And yep, Davey has to go. The Libs need work.

I can't see a Tory resurgence in a month of Tuesdays, they're done at national level imo. As for labour, Streeting or Burnham have got a hell of a job on their hands making Labour re-electable. They've got time, but as things stand, the masses have had enough and are adopting a bit of an "anyone else will do" approach. I hope I'm wrong, but as things stand, there's no real threat to Reform unfortunately.

There was a lot of tactical voting going on there. If that was a normal bye election, not a vote to bin Starmer, Reform would have walked that. If I were Farage, I'd be delighted with that outcome.

Hopefully so, but it's taken far too long. The "oppressed and under an existential threat" line has been supported for far too long.

At what point will the US withdraw military aid and supplies to Israel? It's the only way to get them to wind their necks in - still smashing up Gaza and Lebanon, and stealing West Bank land. Additionally, do the Israeli's still have any support on here? I'd imagine that the penny has now dropped with most people.

Nah, they'll see that as a really positive result. Labour won handsomely but I think anyone can see that this was a one off opportunity to can Starmer vote with tactical voting to that end. Looking at the numbers, the Tories, Greens and Libs got less than 1500 votes between them. The Tories and Libs are done, the Greens will only attract a select crowd, and will likely only do well in certain areas. This showd that Reforms only threat is Restore. They'll walk the next GE barring a miracle, but in fairness to their voters, who else?

Yep, awful, nobody has suggested otherwise, but what's that got to do with the point being responded to namely that Starmer covered it up or minimised it?

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The Sun doesn't say that. Bloody two tier journalism.

Spot on. We should have had 6, at least. Just hope Rice and Stones coming off was precautionary, and that Kane is ok - he was holding his calf near the end.

Kane has been our best CB at times.

Fussy sod.

Chopsy - very Welsh is that.

Yep. Some player. Just holds us together.

She's still only 74. In her prime.

Our two second half goals have been brilliant. Great subs from Tuchel too. Rice was getting sloppy, Bellingham was done, the wingers weren't effective, Saka and Rashford needed minutes. Very good night.

Bellingham looks done.

If this was a boxing fight the ref would have stopped it after the last 10 mins. How we haven't scored I don't know.

Kane as a midfielder would be phenomenal.

Rice spotting his run but playing back after that lovely bit of play they highlighted in the ad break was ridiculous.

He's had a shocker. I think it was him who got sat down in the build up to their goal and just sat on his arse.

Ditto. I'd have taken Palmer and used him on the right when Saka is out.

Madueke goes from having a final ball to not having a clue the next. Infuriating player.

Alas, that's what we're dealing with. It's an "anything else will do" attitude, without any thought or concern as to what the anything else actually is.

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