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Agreed. The owners need to build us back reputationally, and that doesn't happen by retaining the very people who caused this mess. I suspect that'll be too late for many of our existing sponsors, but we won't attract new ones of any note if we're seen as a club which doesn't properly address what's happened. From a footballing perspective, part of me would love Tonda to stay, but I suspect he'll have lost the dressing room anyway, but the bigger picture is that the club needs to rebuild from this and don't do that by keeping hold of the people who were responsible for breaking things.

There's nothing knee jerk about it. His position is untenable, and I'm surprised the club didn't act after their investigation and before the 1st panel. He's been brilliant for us, but he can't stay, and I'd imagine the FA will impose a ban anyway.

Parker is the obvious man for me, but I don't think we'll have managers putting us top of their list tbh.

Are you seriously suggesting that Tonda and others in the club responsible for this shouldn't be sacked? That's an inevitability.

Been there, got it wrong, never to be repeated. But yep, Baz'll be back.

I read that as a goodbye tbh.

Gotcha. I've know written reasons from panels/tribunals arrive anywhere from same day to weeks later. Given the eyes on this case, I'd guess it'll be in the next few days, but it'll be what it'll be.

We need to get some respect back to the club, and a bloke who was not respected in the game, ain't the answer.

Cheese

Report?

When you need normal and respected, which we do, Cortese is not the answer.

Yep, although being guilty isn't ideal.

100/0.

Exactly! Me and my mate pancetta what's cooking.

Only 1 of those ingredients has any place in a carbonara.

I agree that what we do between the decision and the appeal matters little, but what we did to address our conduct pre decision would have made a difference. Having the people who'd done wrong still in position, isn't the best look.

I'm sure it will, but that doesn't serve as mitigation in the decision, and we can't then argue on appeal that sufficient weight wasn't given to our proactive stance. I see how fans see it, I am one, but I also see it through legal eyes.

They weren't facing expulsion. They played the press like a fiddle, but we're the club who broke the rules.

The point is that they should have. We needed to investigate fully, and be proactive. Instead, we haven't (seemingly) taken any action, and have potentially parked it pending appeal. Staff behaviour, and the appeal, are separate matters and should be dealt with separately.

Not whining about the our lost opportunity when the whole thrust of the penalty is that we sought to gain that unfairly. It was naive at best. The apology, yep, the willingness to change, yep, the whining, no. What was also conspicuous by it's absence was saying that we've been let down by individuals, and have dealt with them. For me, it was misguided and unhelpful.

That's just silly.

Yep, they can, have, and the panel will have taken the view that they've lost that opportunity, and that we were seeking to gain it unfairly. A press release whining about our lost opportunity, pre appeal, wasn't wise imo.

But missing the point as the panel and appeal will see it.

FFS, that's a shite response and full of false equivalence. It misses completely the integrity of the game issue, and only mentions our potential losses, without acknowledging that's exactly what we were trying to gain. If that article demonstrates our approach, we're fucked in the appeal.

I don't see that as realistic. The regulations allow for the 14 days for the panel (then 14 days for the appeal) to be brought forward. Investigating this shouldn't have taken the club long, and dealing with those guilty should have then been done promptly. This feels like we went along yesterday waiting for a decision and would then react. Any decent advice would have been to get on top of it, and deal with it proactively. If we haven't done that, we haven't helped our cause.