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I always thought tdmicky was MLG, but then I thought Turkish was Farmersaint so wtf do I know!

Absolutely. 💯

Agree re the bold bits. I've got no idea if anyone has posted about the actual issues, it's all SoG fecking SoG. Every single thread seems to get derailed.

At least there's a fish and chip shop down there. No such luxuries in Rwanda.

Yep, he's not good enough, but until the manager has another option, I'm not sure what people expect.

I'm not sure RM would play Mara if he had a better option.

He'll be worse than that.

Feck me. That's shocking. My dog would have saved that.

Back 3, or a 4 with Manning being told to pretend that he's 'Trent' and bimble about in midfield? Shocking line up regardless.

Yep Yep Proper crowd dispersal is needed. These rats need pushing off the streets.

Blimey. What a lovely time this is.

Starting already in Southampton. London Road has a huge police presence. Loads of scrotes assembling at the Brew house vowing to target anyone who ain't white. Businesses advised to shut up shop, and plenty heeding the warning. Hopefully a lid will be kept on it 🤞

That's so simplistic it's frightening. Money isn't being taken from the old Doris's to pay the doctor's. That's one step away from saying it's being taken to house illegal immigrants. You know full well that the government have inherited a proper shit show and need to take control of the finances. Give me an government willing to make these decisions rather than the bunch of bullshitters we had who just say all is cool and borrow a load more cash.

It's RM's beliefs that matter, and he is not going to abandon his beliefs and style. He only seems to know one way, and we'll try to keep the ball as much as we can regardless of who we play. Liverpool in the cup last year was a case in point. For what it's worth, I agree that players who can break with the ball would really help at this level, but those players also need to be useful on the ball. Wasteful players just won't fit, and if RM didn't fancy Alcaraz in the championship, he ain't going to fancy him in the PL.

Nobody has suggested that we'll dominate possession in the PL. Of course we won't, but when we are on the ball, RM will have us playing keep ball. We ain't suddenly going to start playing like a 1980's Wimbledon team. When you'll have less of the ball, you need players who'll help you keep it. Alcaraz isn't that player.

There'll be all sorts of ID issues in those cases. Most of them are hooded and masked up. That said, your point earlier that lots of these people will cop guilty pleas to lesser offences is probably correct. I'd imagine there'll be loads of guilty pleas to lesser public order offences to avoid a trial on affray or violent disorder, for example.

You ain't Turkish, that much has been established. You're Farmer Saint. Anyways, welcome!

My posts related to Farmer's point that cases will be kept in the mags court meaning no jury trial. Pretty much everything that the protestors are likely to be charged with gives them the right to elect crown court trial if they want. The mags have limited sentencing powers though, so will push up an either way offences up to crown court if they feel it should be tried there, or after a guilty plea for sentence if they feel it could warrant a stronger sentence than they can impose.

Not sure why, but I was convinced ages ago that Turkish and Farmer Saint might be one and the same. I got that wrong!

Although I may talk nonsense about lots of things, I know what I'm talking about on this one. Arson, affray, criminal damage, violent disorder, assault (except GBH with intent), possession of an offensive weapon, assault police, are amongst the offences that you'd expect these people to be charged with. They are all either way offences. That gives the defendant the choice of crown court trial even if the magistrates think they can deal with it. Here's a bit more detail. Defence "right of election" to the Crown Court after not guilty plea 23. Where the magistrates consider the offence is suitable for summary trial, the defendant is told of this, and warned that, even after a summary trial, the magistrates may nevertheless send the defendant to the Crown Court for sentence where they feel the offence merits greater punishment than they have the power to impose. The defendant will then be asked: "Do you wish to be tried by this court or do you wish to be tried by a jury?" 24. A defendant therefore has to agree to a summary trial if this is the course of action to be followed, but has the right to "elect" or choose jury trial. In simple terms this means that the defendant still has the choice to elect a Crown Court trial even if the magistrates' court decides that a case is suitable for summary trial.

Cheers. You haven't sold it me!

No. The court doesn't decide in either way cases. A defendant has the right to elect crown court trial. Rape and murder are indictable only (crown court only) but the stiff these folks will be charged with will mostly be either way. It's only lesser crimes that are summary only (magistrates only).

Colour, and religious prejudice although I'd hazard a guess that a white Muslim wouldn't get any grief out there. I'd also suspect that a black Christian would get more grief than a white one. These idiots see white immigration differently. Nobody is telling me that a blond Australian doctor is be targeted walking around Southport. No way. If that doctor is a Syrian Muslim, he's bang in trouble.

The vast majority of cases that these people will be charged with are "either way" offences meaning that they can elect trial by jury. To remove that option, our whole criminal justice system would need ripping up, and our right to be tried by our peers for most offences taken from us. It ain't happening.

True, although being upset is a million miles away from what we're seeing now. My guess is that the people who were upset by Poles coming here to work will be even more upset that non white people are now doing that work. Would we have this nonsense if Brexit hadn't happened and the immigrant workers were white Europeans. Is suspect not, and although I may be wrong, my guess is that many of these protestors see black and white immigrants differently.