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Ditto. I switched it on 20 mins or so in and was surprised it wasn't packed with unknowns. Pleasantly surprised by the line up and formation, and I love the Winkleman. Will stick with it.

The last 2 years is on them. This isn't just a last 2 years issue though.

It wasn't Hamas who blew up the Gaza airport or sealed it's borders. Or built divides, checkpoints and turnstiles all over the West Bank. Or supplied/controlled Palestinian water and electricity.

Indeed. Stamp Duty is a major earner, and should continue to be. I think the levels are daft though and need looking at.

And put people where? Leave them roaming the streets? And absurd to suggest we stop supporting Ukraine.

Ah, gotcha 👍

It is. But. The Israel/Palestinian issue is in reality a nationalistic land issue. Sure, it's origins are in religion, but Zionism is at least as big a factor as that, ditto the Palestinians wanting autonomy and a life without oppression. To call this a religious issue all but ignores what's happened post WW2, and the respective positions and objectives of both sides.

Indeed. "That mosque burning" I had interpreted as meaning the Peacehaven terror incident with the people inside, not the Kettering one.

I think you're confusing the Peacehaven incident with one in Kettering.

I don't think that Hamas anticipated the sheer scale of the Israeli reaction. They certainly did not expect to see Iran shown as so vulnerable, and unable to lay a glove on Israel. Whilst Israel have not made themselves any friends here, they've confirmed themselves as the dominant force in the middle east. My hope is that the talks lead to an immediate ceasefire, simultaneous release of hostages and Palestinian detainees, then a maintained ceasefire while they continue talks. It won't happen, but a man lives on hope.

Sadly the Israeli regime do. Reality is more relevant than a fear that can never bear fruit.

Let me know when they decimate a territory, it's infrastructure, and kill 20k+ kids, and we'll have a conversation about it mate. But yep, they're vile. The Israeli government too. It's possible to condemn both sides. Give it a whirl.

Ha! Probably a tad more basic...water, sewage, houses, schools, infrastructure, you know, the stuff that civilised countries don't smash up.

I think there's an interpretation issue. Hamas won't want for the rebuild of Gaza before the release of the thousands of detained Palestinians. Their other requirements are reasonable.

It's hard to see where his career goes from here. Whether he'd be willing to drop back to the championship, or even league 1, I'd be surprised. Even then, his commitment to a process which plainly doesn't work, and his comments about his players, are hardly going to appeal to many chairman.

Kieffer Moore was never the answer, although he'd have been a better answer than Downs.

It was not a discussion point - this thread is meant to be about Israel, not posters. All I'll say is that I respect all posters who are honest about their views, including those with views contrary to mine, you being an example. Other posters, not so much.

Very real possibility. Our strike force won't get past the collosus that is Kayne Ramsay. To be fair, I'm pretty sure that Jones would het more out of this group of players than Still.

Indeed. I've seen him for what he is for a long time.

You say clarify, I read face saving.

The thing is, you can try to row backwards by saying that you mean something, but, your posts are clearly written and interpreted by many from the words used. Your intelligent bloke and way better than doing a Russell Martin and blaming everyone else.

Very benevolent. I think it's his opinions and attitudes that he should try to work on.

Indeed. 7/10 happened despite the scale of the Israeli budget and personnel. Not every wrong un can be spotted and/or stopped.

You must know about 50,000 people SoG.

The attacking of Jews, and Muslims, and attacking the respective holy places of each religion, are all appalling in any context. You're the only person seeking to limit your condemnation to just one aspect of that.