S-Clarke

I think it just shows you what an horrific season it's been quality wise, it's been so, so, so poor. No denying it. I know Forest, Bournemouth, Newcastle have enjoyed it - but you've got to look at the bigger picture of how bad it is. I think after tonight's result, Liverpool will have the lowest points of a winner since Leicester won it in 2016. For us to be this poor in a season this poor is a stunning achievement though to be fair. Another accolade for us to take home.

A season full of friendly matches, we're almost at the end. Maybe we'll be competitive next season, but I wouldn't be surprised if we're not. I have never seen such an uncompetitive and lower standard football team playing at this level.

I can't say I was surprised, City - and propaganda football - has been found out IMO. They were good in their period for sure, but I feel football is now moving on from propaganda football. You had lots of clubs and managers try to copy the City approach (i.e. us), but it fails miserably as football is now moving away from that. I'm pleased for Palace, whilst it may be seen as a backs against the wall win, I thought City were exactly as they were against us - boring, dull and robotic. Not how football should be. Teams have sharpened up to that now. Take a re-watch of that Inter v Barca game of how football should be, and how I feel it's starting to be played like again.

It looks like Will Still is done and dusted then, I remember when Sunderland were being linked with him last year (when he was leaving Rennes) and most fans saw it as a coup as he'd done good work over there (ignoring the FM nonsense). Why is the general vibe negative out of interest? I don't think we could realistically approach much better in terms of where we are at, but as with every appointment it is a risk. What I would say against this is that he's obviously pretty young and lacks a great deal of experience, and by that I mean experience of troubling and difficult situations and being able to navigate those. This summer will be unbelievably hard and the jury is out as to whether he has the experience to deal with what it will bring - that's my biggest concern. I would have been happier with Rohl, he was my choice - mainly because he has experience of managing/coaching at the highest levels, in the Championship and has shown he can deal with very, very difficult situations as he showed at Wednesday. I still strongly believe Rohl was our first choice, but I think there are greater ambitions for him now. There will be lots of movement in the summer and his stock is fairly high, I think he wants to move up a level. I think we could have gone a lot worse and a lot more left field than Still though, and from a club perspective this one ticks a big, big box - no compo required.

Thank you for posting. I do think it's fair to say that everyone associated at the club has to take some blame and accountability for this season, they're all culpable in some aspects. I don't deny that they have the right intentions but how things have been handled this year has been quite frightening really. I do believe he's making progress with the commercial side which will impact in a round about way, but it's hard for the average joe fan to appreciate it because of how bad the 'live' image has been. Let's see what happens this summer and next season, I don't think SR have any more rope to be honest - next season is win or bust, we need to see some results of their work now, otherwise it's just words from their side.

I don't think it's appropriate to have any end of season awards, I'm shocked the club have even had the nerve to open a vote - tradition or not. Yeah, we've had a couple of players who have been better than the rest, but we've got 12 points ffs. If I was a player I wouldn't want an award on the back of this season, I'd be pretty embarrassed if I did get one. The club should sack it off and burn the memory of this season when the curtain comes down.

He is a bit of a nut job, but he's tin pot/lower league, not suited to the pressure and magnifying nature of the higher level.

He's certainly saying the right things, and by all accounts doing the right things in the right order. As we've always said, there's zero point in getting a new manager in the door until you have the correct structure, analysts, scouts and such in place. That was always job number 1 and I'm glad he also seems to see it that way. Next step is getting the manager who aligns correctly, and once that is in place we start shaping the squad. By all accounts it sounds like they're doing it in the right way, a sensible and non-knee jerking approach. The club needed a reset of this level and to 'start' again in this sort of aspect, so let's see what the coming weeks bring and if the structure that has been built is going to work.

It's an interesting shout, I'm not entirely sure what the score is with him - injuries seem to have curtailed his progress a hell of a lot. If he's injury free, he needs game time though. I can see two avenues really, he can do what Liam Delap did and move to a newly promoted side in order to build a rep by playing regular at a high level, or he can drop down into the Championship to prove his worth. As he's not really done it consistently at any level yet, I'd say an ambitious newly relegated side is an interesting shout and probably as good as he can expect if he wants regular football.

BBD and pace shouldn't go into the same sentence really. A proper carthorse.

It does make you worry that our most recent recruitment decision, on the back of our awful summer window, was actually worse than the decisions we made in the summer. I hope Spors had no involvement in this one as it isn't a great start if that's the case, it smells of Rasmus though.

I noticed the Forest owner has had another meltdown in public, had a row with Nuno on the pitch at FT. He's a nut job that guy.

He's good in those backs to the wall games, where all you do is defend and your concentration is kept fairly high as you're always defending. But when we have to be slightly on the front foot and more progressive, he's found wanting. Usually because he switches off when he has to defend again, is caught out of position or plays a hospital pass. If all we do is play for 0-0's and defend with a straight back 5 then he's not bad, but there's more to football than that and we do still need to move on from him.

Stop ruining every thread MLG.

If we're totally honest, that was up there as the worst game of football we've probably ever had to watch at St Mary's, but it's the sort of game you can get behind as it's a backs against the wall job. But Man City, imo, were really bad. They should be pretty embarrassed with their efforts, as I thought they were very half-arsed with everything they did. We defended really well in blocks, but they did make it easy for us as their moves and positioning were pretty obvious most of the time. I didn't imagine getting to the holy grail of 12 points against Man City though, so for all the crap they've given us this year, it's only fair that we credit them for that resilient showing. Special praise to Bednarek as well who I thought had his best game of the season. I thought Aribo added a lot when he came on in the 2nd half, he's not a bad player and someone who'd do a job for us next year - but he's off to Turkey as far as I know. Wellington - he's our first choice next season, we don't need to buy a LB. I think he's a proper player, really like the look of him in every game we've seen him play. Surprised he fell out of the side for as long as he did, he's a level above Manning. It does frustrate me that we can be that concentrated against Man City, but so totally out of it against 'equals' in Leicester - the mentality of the squad is all wrong, but that's for the summer to sort out.

Well I was surprised yesterday, I needed the rest of the day to recover what an achievement!

I personally think we deserve to have got less points than 11, we have been worse than Derby in that year. Of the 2 meagre wins we got, one was a 1-0 against Everton which was almost 1-1 at the death had it not been for VAR. And a 2-1 at the death win against Ipswich. We are very, very fortunate to even have 11 points imo.

The price announcements and footballing decisions are critical at this point, if SR read the room wrong then they'll lose a lot of match goers who will have had enough putting up their hard earned cash this year, to watch an absolute abomination. I didn't renew mine this summer, thanking my lucky stars now to be fair, but the price and club footballing 'decisions' will dictate what I do next year. No price freezes, no increases, the price has to come down in order to 'give' something back to the beaten and bruised fans this year - and they also need to make some sensible footballing decisions for once.

Nathan Jones and his fabulous stats bounced about because it came out of his mouth, in an interview, whilst he was at Luton. It ended up on social media because he said it out of his own mouth in front of TV cameras, and people picked it up. But you could still hear it without needing social media as it went all over SSN. I feel like you're maybe getting agents confused with social media, as the agent drops behind the scenes (and into the mainstream media) do happen...but basing an appointment on facebook or twitter posts isn't how it's done.

Sargent is one of those good Champ, poor PL players - but he is a good player for Norwich without doubt and if the price was right I'd be inclined to have a look. I hoped we'd have a sniff around Siaz at Norwich, but looks like he's been snared by Villareal which is a good move. I've seen nothing from Archer this season to suggest he can do a job, but part of me wants to see him in a 2 and with someone like Sargent it could work.

Can you imagine us changing our badge when Sports Republic are in charge and calling the shots? Imagine the sort of disaster they'd come up with!

Leicester was our only chance of getting to the heights of 12 points, and even Leicester were too strong for us. Man City are certainly too strong, Everton will come out all guns blazing as their final show at Goodison - that won't be a pretty watch, and Arsenal are also again too strong. GD in terms of the 'worst on 11 points' will come into the equation without doubt.

That really isn't how it works in any way what so ever.

To counter that though, maybe he knew what he had to do to keep your head above water and it wasn't going to be pretty? That's all you really needed in year 1, stay up, look at the summer and then make a switch if required. I think he'd shown after his time at Forest that he deserved more of a shot. I think it's probably fair to say that your fanbase were against him from day 1 though, mainly due to his Forest links. You got the appointment wrong in the first place because the people running your club didn't read the room, but I still think he's a pretty capable manager. Your ownership situation seems as mad us ours really, they don't seem to have a real idea and lurch from bad call to bad call. A big summer for you guys as much as it is for us.

Looks like there is going to be a bit of a churn of managers this summer. The summer could be more interesting than this season has been!