S-Clarke

He commented furhter down, he's just read Steve Gerrards bio.

That wasn't the concrete report I was hoping for.

It makes you wonder what on earth is so bad here? Do we keep these guys in prison camps for the season and only let them out on match day? Do we not feed them or allow them to see their families? Given how keen everyone is to always get out of here, that can only be the case. It's not like we pay well, look after them and give them tasty signing on fee's is it.

A good pre-season for him is key for him to be able to play with fluidity and lucidity, with a good confidence and possibilities

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/revealed-virgil-van-dijk-received-secret-messages-held-talks-jurgen-klopp-botched-liverpool-transfer-190009053.html

12-18 months *apparently* - depending on who you believe! think it's a long term one though.

They seem to be struggling to get anyone over the line if reports are to be believed...

He's out for a good year though, he'll probably sign one when he's back fit.

It's hard for us to really make a judgement on lander, there's little information on it from our side - i.e what kat's intentions are, and all we can see is stuff that is out in the open - i.e their history, bribing, backhanding etc. So I think it's hard to be completely against this, or completely for it. Need to know exactly how this will benefit us, and I still don't believe KL is out to ship us off to some crooks who will dump us up a river. This club is part of her fathers legacy, the training ground building is even named after him.....so I can't see how she'd want us to be dragged down and sold to some crooks. This is why I think there's more that KL and co know which we don't, and if we did, we'd possibly be a lot more content.

Still very reluctant to get myself excited by the thought of Tuchel, not seen enough concrete 'sources' to suggest this is even a goer...but let's see. and plus, we still actually have a manager..!

No idea, no detail in yet. Just a breaking strap from sky news. Probably something about making it easier for the big clubs to carry on spending and getting bought by whoever.

game over I think...!

They set the bar themselves by splurging £50-55m on Stones.

Sorry City, let's give him to you for what you want to pay. That's how it works. Being painted as we're the ones in the wrong asking for so much money. Well, perhaps, we actually don't want to sell him? So bog off.

It's a shame really, but we all know it goes on. I'm sure a lot of clubs at our level are applauding our stance. Let's be honest, there aren't many clubs 'at our level' who could potentially jeopardize receiving £60m for a player....but the contract we gave him last year has given us such a strong hand. We can plant our feet on this one and drag their name through the mud. Would love to know what Virgil is thinking....doesn't strike me as the sort who would kick up a fuss, if i was him I'd be pretty miffed with Liverpool for doing it the wrong way.

Absolutely it happens all the time, no one is denying that. Probably not as obvious as Liverpool have done though. But other clubs are savvy. Liverpool decided to parade it from the rooftops before they'd even spoken to us via a series of directed media briefings. You can see on twitter that all of the LFC connected journos reported it at EXACTLY the same time at 5pm. It's amateur hour from Liverpool and their PR team. They've got history for this. I'm sure we know more about what's gone on in the past with Lallana, Lovren, Mane etc - they were clearly 'spoken to' before they decided to spit their dummies out. I think we've just said, enough's enough. We hold all the aces this summer with a player with 5 years left, we don't need to sell for any reason at all. His value isn't going to drop and he's not going to walk away on a free. This was the perfect time to show Liverpool up for being the absolute ****ish force they are in the transfer market. Bravo Saints.

This is all part of the long game apparently. Obviously Liverpool have done no wrong. They are always the Victims. woe be liverpool.

Anything that comes out of Craig Burleys mouth can be considered Junk.

Stoke probably, seeing as they've already got Liverpool done for tapping up one of their youth players. Liverpool have a 2 year ban on signing youth players already.

Came from the John Cross article in the mirror. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/southampton-liverpool-virgil-van-dijk-10580242

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Apparently we're intent on pushing forward with the complaint, and we have other PL clubs support. Interesting.

Says it all doesn't it...

Maybe this isn't over yet then.

Just found the evidence we have. We have them over a barrel really.