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I've just posted this on the other MP thread, and seems to fit in with this topic: ..... leagues are littered with managers who once showed great promise, whose to say MP won't be one of them ? For all the hype, his achievements in terms of trophies is nil, and as his detractors on here point out, his win ratio is not spectacular. Wonder if his master, NC, would be getting an itchy finger on the trigger after four wins in 18 ? Is this really well enough into the 'next level' that he desired ?

One of the stumbling blocks that really needs addressing, as of a month ago really. Unfortunately we seem to want to do this bit by bit, which means other things around it fall off in the process. Yes, big worry. Ideally IF we could make the change , if we have to, asap, it would at least give someone chance to put their mark on things, and work with the current squad. For all those saying they are closely attached to MP, the same was said regarding Adkins don't forget. That deal will only be offered when the CEO etc are in place. If he's not interested then try bringing in the right man, subject to availability this season ( though easier said than done perhaps). Like you, I hope MP stays, to continue what he appears to have started, but only if he's motivated enough to want to be here. At the moment it seems otherwise. Having said that about continuing the progress, leagues are littered with managers who once showed great promise, whose to say MP won't be one of them ? For all the hype, his achievements in terms of trophies is nil, and as his detractors on here point out, his win ratio is not spectacular. Wonder if his master, NC, would be getting an itchy finger on the trigger after four wins in 18 ? Is this really well enough into the 'next level' that he desired ?

Any links to the goals ?

Out of interest, who exactly might be lining up a replacement ? I doubt KL has an in depth knowledge of Spanish football, Ralph Krueger perhaps marginally more, but for the selection of a manager/first team coach ?

Question the Cortese "influence" mentioned though. I doubt he's as big an influence there as he'd like to think he is.

..been the case for ages.

And when he was here, he seldom looked the answer. A single moment of sublime ability v Man City, but for the rest of it he simply didn't seem to give a sh!t and was thinking of exiting.

Season finished at Sunderland mid February.

But its not just any microphone, its OUR SFC microphone. Its symbolic of MP saving our season from tumbling off the table. In a "blessed are the cheesemakers" sort of way.

No, please no....

One of the matches was v Turkey (not Egypt as I suggested earlier - knew it was somewhere down that region !) but it was 1984 , and involved Shilton, Wright and Williams (not Wallace) so some things still register ! http://www.11v11.com/matches/turkey-v-england-14-november-1984-238823/ [video=youtube;Xn9I28-_g_4] Another match with three Saints might have been Armstongs debut v France in Paris.

..well, not for them it isn't

Were four of Shilton, Wright, Armstong, Williams,or Danny Wallace ever in the same squad at any stage ? Seem to recall Shilton, Wallace and Williams playing a friendly against Egypt once. Can't recall if Wright was involved. c 1984.

Gecko was another one for some excellent shirt and badge designs, always better than the eventual effort churned out.

I think it was done on the 2013/14 kit speculation thread if you care to research it.

As well as a Liverpool supporter, Saints supporter...

Like many things at the moment, it will largely depend on who is in the chair to make the final selections on targets etc. One of the most promising links - albeit a tenuous one - on here, with the youtube clip was Lucas Ocampos , how realistic I've no idea (but we all thought Gaston and Osvaldo were unlikely). Perhaps MP could persuade him. If MP were to leave however, we might not see the same appetite for South Americans. With the change at the top though I expect we'll be less focussed on Serie A this year.

Agree with the fist sentiment. I hope it is Ralph Krueger's first task, to secure the management team to stay, (then convince the players !).

yes, wait indeed. You forgot Guly.

Another eastern European country that would welcome taxpayers from UK, & Germany to fund their redevelopment for them no doubt.

Me neither, despite Rupert's (embarrassing) enforced press conference, in which they both declared not to have a problem working together. My lasting memory of that was a final question posed by some mischievous bint from the media , "do you call him Sir Clive, Harry ?" "do wot ?", to which she repeated the question. "be' ave " said 'arry storming off.

Don't know, but I suspect this might have been the final straw ? Yes, accept your point that the Juventus deal is by no means 'done'.

Probably more of a negative impact had he stayed.

Absolutely. I'm not a great fan of NC, but his appointments all worked. Many a board, or CEO with £ at their disposal have made poor choices. Of course, part of the problem might have been the raw ambition that he expected KL to fund, without KL's approval or a willingness to share the plans with her/the trust along the way. My last comment re selection of a manager if/when needed is whether KL/her advisers have the midas touch in the selection that NC appears to have had. Perhaps Ralph Kruger is an old drinking buddy of Jurgen Klopp , but lets not bank on it.

Agreed.