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Yep that’s why I want him to be elected. It’ll finally expose the bankruptcy of the Tory party and the hard Brexiter ideology. Of course the extremists are already preparing the excuses when he inevitably f**ks up -they have an advanced degree in avoiding responsibility. But maybe saner leave voters will see the light. I cannot wait for the impending bloodbath.

They are isolated instances and some came after our usage. Jihadi John is still a classic and am surprised the Remain establishment hasn’t called Redwood it yet. You see Al Tenderi, this place really is a hive of creativity. You (and they) might learn a thing or two pal. The bigger point, of course, is that the moniker is not really part of the Remain lexicon in terms of scale to qualify as a cliché, unlike the relentless Brexiter rhetoric of colonial status, vassal states, treason and treachery and WWII imagery. I know you’re a bit sore and trying to distract because you got exposed (again) but you’ll live

They made the joke in November 2018 (37m30s): https://youtu.be/uDHBaQF4vr0 It was already doing the rounds in Brexiter and wider UK circles in 2017: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42375059 Come better prepared next time Les.

I can’t wait for Johnson to be elected too. Don’t let me down Les.

I assume you can’t show that “some tosser underling in Verhofstadt's office” coined the colony status phrase? That one backfired a bit pal

Given Verbal and I have popularised it, I’d say it involved quite a bit of creativity. Wow someone’s actually responded to one of your posts pal

When did he make the joke Les? It was a nod to all the rhetoric on this side of the channel which goes much further back. You’re not very good at this. The larger, original point is you're like a malfunctioning bingo machine spewing out stock phrases, a jihadist who’s memorised scripture to heart but falls to pieces when asked to justify his beliefs or use critical thought. It runs through all your posts. Mix it up sometimes pal.

Jeff’s larger point is correct. You and his little sidekick, LD, have repeatedly banged on about Tusk’s offer of a FTA which you’ve taken as evidence of May’s incompetence - that had the UK taken up that offer, it would have bypassed all the complexities and tradeoffs of the WA. Needless to say, you misunderstood Tusk and the context in which he made this point, that yes you can have a Canada-style FTA but only after the WA is agreed. No WA, no FTA, no escape route for you. This is Jeff’s point and frankly he pulled your pants down regarding it.

“Colony status” Are you capable of a single independent thought or even turn of phrase Les? Or are you a brute, empty vessel for whatever brexitcentral or the erg tells you think. I’m thinking of staging an intervention for you pal before you’re too far gone.

Deliver? If he’s unable to pass May’s deal or a variant that Labour supports, then the only way of delivering Brexit will be to crash out on October 31 in which case there will be no implementation period. Of course Parliament will block this which will set up the mother of constitutional crises. Johnson simply cannot square the extreme promises he’s made and is hoping for a miracle, namely that the EU will somehow blink. Rory Stewart’s diagnosis of the problem is essentially correct.

Thats a transitional arrangement as part of the WA. It’s not technically a FTA.

Something will have to give - and one side will be bitterly disappointed. David Davis was on the radio early, all giddy and excited, that Johnson had promised him, eyeball to eyeball, man to man, that the UK will be leaving on October 31 “no ifs, no buts”.

Note the WA isn’t a FTA.

Not as straightforward this time since Parliament was able to use the WA to introduce amendments that blocked no deal; if the next PM doesn’t bring anything back to Parliament to vote on, MPs won’t have the opportunity to do the same. The situation will require additional creativity and ingenuity from Bercow which is highly likely in light of his statements at Brookings.

Seriously what planet do Brexiters live on.

Agree. He’s dropped off a bit but is still one of our best players.

Reckon he’s off - too good to be true to think that we’d bring in 4 or 5 players without major sales. With only two years left on his contact, his age and his marketability, he’s a perfect candidate.

Probably Hunt vs Johnson. Javid’s on good terms with Johnson, so once he’s eliminated, will be asked by Johnson’s handlers to transfer his votes to Hunt. Hopefully those who voted for Javid show a bit more independence.

He looks weird. Fullstop.

Les as long as you’re still voting for Johnson, then life is good.

He performed badly yesterday but a one-off TV performance is hardly going to determine his long-term future. What you miss is that Stewart was delivering a bitter message on Brexit -the Tories still have their heads buried in the sand on what can and can’t be achieved and are not willing to listen. That will change once reality bites on October 31. If I were you, I’d stick to making up numbers about illegal immigration in France than commenting on UK politics

This electorate? Conservative MPs? Given where he’s come from -basically from nowhere, his campaign has been a clear success which stands him in good stead for a crack later on. It was always about the long game pal.

If Rory Stewart shifts all his votes to Gove which was touted today, then yes. But likely Johnson will lend some of his support to Hunt or Javid -seen as easy touches- to block that. Depends how coordinated and organised the Johnson camp is.

You’d think Guido and his band of fluffers whave better things to do than snitch on the ordinary public. Wonder what he’s got lined up for the slightly odd woman from Soton. If he comes up emptyhanded, it won’t be for want of trying. Equally odd.

Like Rory Stewart you mean? The only one not making expensive and gratuitous promises on tax like your boy Raab. Commiserations by the way. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-05/stewart-swipes-at-tory-rivals-johnson-raab-over-u-k-tax-cuts https://www.ft.com/content/b7dac52e-8b8a-11e9-a1c1-51bf8f989972