shurlock

We’ve swung and missed on so many transfers of late that it’s hard to get excited anymore. But like the thinking behind the signing and think this is only the start of RH’s efforts to inject more pace and directness into the side.

There seems to be some misunderstanding about what the indicator ‘health care outcomes’ captures. It measures things like infant mortality, life expectancy after age 60 and relative survival rates for breast cancer and colon cancer patients etc. Now many of these things are amendable to health care, so may reflect poorly on the health care system where outcomes are poor. But often they are made worse by factors that have nothing to do with the health care system. It is no coincidence that the UK and US have some of the highest levels of inequality and poverty and both inequality and poverty are strongly associated with outcomes such as life expectancy. To use your analogy, it’s like looking at a car’s breakdown rate without taking account of the quality of the roads, weather conditions, the competence of mechanics etc.

Didn’t see you had posted the link earlier.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/15/trump-threatens-use-us-trade-talks-force-nhs-pay-drugs/ Your naivety never ceases to amaze.

Tigz

Happy Eid everyone https://mobile.twitter.com/SouthamptonFC/status/1135838601894219776?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Does he play FM?

Something you and soggy can agree on.

Its not hard pal.

That goes without saying.

Agree. Very odd. Also why would he come if he's not expecting to start?

Improper.

Obviously I don’t hope he dies. And no I don’t make any money.

Not nice to see: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/gazza-shown-pleading-cocaine-heartbreaking-16233935 Still he’s a resilient bugger - I’ve had him in a celebrity death pool for years for no return.

Isn’t MLG a maths teacher? Mr Men meme etc etc.

Do the small things in life bring her joy too, pal?

Jimmy White

Les you seem flustered. You made out that Adonis had engaged in Campbell-style antics. Campbell said he voted for the Lib Dems. Fullstop. Adonis said you should vote for Labour if you want to oppose Brexit - in that sense, he didn’t say vote for another party. Now he did point out that if you want the type of Brexit that leads swivels like Liam Halligan (who also featured on Iain Dale’s radio show) to dismiss Chequers as a betrayal and not Brexit, then yes you shouldn’t probably vote Labour. But that’s just a statement of fact when you consider Labour’s position is even softer than Chequers (e.g. in calling for a permanent customs union). In other words, his statement was entirely consistent with official policy if you follow the implications through to their logical conclusion. Use your head. Still getting triggered that the Brexit party wasn’t quite the towering success you wish and there’s no real majority for no deal? Please don’t change - you’re my man on the inside, my useful idiot and I fully expect you and LD to vote with your hearts.

No Les - it was his experience with the SDP in the 1980s than taught him this lesson, not everything revolves around Europe or the EU. Have you actually watched the video, Les, or did you just lazily glaze over the video title and send the link? He garbles his initial words but clarifies himself and clearly says that Labour is softening its position and if you want to stop Brexit, you should vote Labour. If you want Brexit, however, you shouldn’t vote Labour because they’re not going to deliver the type of Brexit that many Brexiteers want that views compromises like Chequers as a betrayal. No contradiction there at all and nothing like Campbell’s case. Even by your horrendous standards, that’s a proper howler pal :lol:

Morning Les. He’s spoken about his SDP/LD experience and how, depressingly, it taught him that there’s no real space for a second progressive party in British politics. He’s tribally Labour but at the same passionately remain, so not sure how that makes him confused. It’s a perfectly logical dilemma for Labour remainers. I’m not sure what he said on TV or its context- I’ll have to accept your word; but I’ve seen him say the opposite (it’s in his twitter feed which is publicly verifiable). Your last para is a characteristic nonsequitur: why is he damaged goods? He wasn’t elected because he stood for a party that’s not committed to stopping Brexit and remaining in the EU. It doesn’t change the strong performance of pro-remain parties and their combined vote share. I didn’t realise Radio 5 wasn’t part of the beeb - that’s a first for me pal. Perhaps he was on the TV more because he was a candidate and so a bigger part of the news. Who knows? Frankly who cares? Generally speaking, he rarely goes on BBC TV - I know for a fact that he is persona non grata at Broadcasting House after repeatedly savaging its journalism and coverage of Brexit. He does seem to get under your skin.

Needless to say, that spending will likely come from higher taxes, spending cuts and extra borrowing - glad, as a small state Thatcherite, you’re OK with that. https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/13086

“Let's give our NHS the 350 million the EU takes each week” per the Vote Leave billboard. Good we both agree it was a lie.

Yes it would be a lie if your employer also claimed that you could spend the higher gross (pre tax and pensions) amount on whatever you fancy -say the NHS- as you would only get the net amount to spend. HTH pal.