Saint Fan CaM

Best post on here for many a week.

You really can't say Brown is a bit crap FFS. He's at least on a par with Pardew - he's managed in the Prem! Not the WOW factor perhaps, but I like how he's trying to improve himself and reckon he could do a pretty good job here actually. However I do not see him as the type of candidate NC or Reed would pick.

This. Sounds much more likely to me.

I wrote yesterday in another thread that the Development Centre was starting to look like the tail wagging the dog. This pretty much confirms it. We are headed for a big fall if NC appoints Brown or any other British manager. Zola might just be able to work with such a set-up. Whoever it ends up being, I do hope they've got NC's ear over Reed, otherwise they'll be be fighting a loosing battle.

Sounded very much like the reply was he was not approached and that he was concentrating on Cherries. Solent confirmed their understanding of this also. I don't think he will get the job frankly and I think he knows it too, even if he was interviewed.

You've pretty much summed up what I was going to say. To answer your question I would have to point to the past and how we have not learnt anything from it. This road-crash was seen first in the Prem with Wigley and then again in the CCC with the Dutch duo. It's Saints version of groundhog day but now it's League One. Cortese needs to pull a big ******* rabbit out the hat very soon and be absolutely certain of his decision, because I can see another repeat once again at Xmas, except next time we'll be talking about a candidate to save us from relegation rather than take us to the Prem.

Oh dear - just what we need now - not. Political agenda, self-serving, attention seekers.

Sure I see your point, however I would suggest someone taking over our squad is faced with a different set of issues. Howe built his own team in the sense that they were all in it together with their backs to the wall - kind of seige mentality. That's not really the case here - let's face it most of our squad could walk straight into any L1/nPC team they wanted (if they wanted/needed to leave) - the mentality is quite different I would suggest.

Of the three positions you mention, we have only failed to fill the CF slot....(Guly and Alex O-C have filled the others). My feeling is that the reason we've not sorted this is because it was always going to be a position to be filled by a loanee. Our current forward line will need re-evaluating if we get promoted to the CCC I would suggest and this might need significant expenditure - so why spend that money now?

Absolutely spot on. The guys you mention would not succeed - they have one thing in common, their success has come about by building their own team and getting their players on-side. Totally different concept to what's needed at Saints for this season and beyond IMO. Zola/Clarke combo would be outstanding for us all the way through to the Prem providing NC backs them completely and gets some much needed consistency and stability back into the club.

Come Alps, how can you possible support this statement?!? We have 4 points which is more than we had after the same number of games last season and have brought in 4 players in areas we needed to. We have given a half decent Prem side a good run for their money and won the last game 0-4. OK, it's not been thoroughly overwhelming, but why was it a waste? And how have we fallen on our arse?! Totally over the top and the evidence is just not there at the moment to prove anything like that!

Have to say I agree a little with the OP, although it was inevitable that fans would chant for AP when all they know is what they've been told - i.e. he's gone and that means instability again. The fact the team seemed so rubbish after a 0-4 victory just enhanced the feeling I would suggest. But today is all about helping our team get 3 points - nothing else matters until 90mins have elapsed. Sing for a Saints victory whatever part of the ground you sit in. WIFM. COYS!

Guly will start - it's been mandated by the Board and Connollys legs will be saved until 80mins. Therefore team IMO will be... -----------------------DAVIS-------------------- BUTTERFIELD-----FONTE-----JAIDI-----HARDING PUNCH-----SCHNEIDERLIN-----HAMMOND-----DICKSON ----------------------GULY---------------------- ---------------LAMBERT------------------------ Subs: Connolly, Bart, Fish, Martin, Wotton, Ox-Chamberlain

Dean Wikins 16/1 : Amazing odds given that he's still in charge of 1st team affairs for this Saturday...worth a punt I would say.

Might be worthy of note - on Tuesday I saw Hammond have a massive rant at Fonte after their 2nd goal went in. Fonte was not happy and squared up to Hammond but then calmed down. It was over in a flash, however it stayed with me because I've rarely seen Hammond have a go like that since he was made Captain.

You've raised some good points there Yorkie as usual. I made a post a day or two ago debating that there are essentially two type of team in any respective division... a. the team that is made up of more expensive players that are individually classed as top players for the division they are in, but for some reason these teams sometimes underachieve. The team is put together with the intention of keeping most players together for the next league up. (Saints now). b. the team that is made up of lesser talent, but have a charasmatic Manager who tells them they're the dog's B's - they believe him because he gets them playing as a unit to their strengths (weaknesses) - no pretences - no fancy stuff, just hard grit and determination. They tend to punch above their weight and win some surprising games, but also live a bit on the edge. (Saints in the Prem under Strachan). Actually there is a third type in the Prem - the teams that have money and a combination of the above two types....e.g. Man U, Chelski, Arsenal and Spurs.

Will you be charging a £3 handling fee? If not it can't be good enough so for that reason, I'm out.

Fixed it for you. (;

Mmm, have just read Gross' bio and it does show him to be more competent than I thought him to be. He must be in with a shout assuming he's applied.

Benjii - that's good!

Well, I guess there's no concrete evidence as such, but it does seem somewhat reminiscent of tail wagging dog. Also, with this many 'policemen' at Staplewood I would imagine there were plenty of 'unofficial reports' getting back to NC. I do hope our new manager is built of sterner stuff and is whiter than white.

TBF it's not my article and I was not suggesting I would not want him here. He is a good manager, but is he the RIGHT manager? The key though is what you mean by "US". If that means the fans, then yes he's the right choice because he's a big name (but that doesn't guarantee mid to long-term success at Saints). If you mean the club as whole then perhaps there's a question to be asked - i.e. would he be right for NC and also the players or would it be another crash waiting to happen, thus not providing the stability that this club desperately needs?

We will lose. It is inevitable.

Before anyone creams themselves over MO'N, I suggest they read this... http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2010/08/10/2063739/aston-villa-players-celebrate-martin-oneills-exit-by-texting Puts things a little bit more into perspective and I am not so sure he would be good for the team at this moment in time particularly.

Before anyone creams themselves over MO'N, I suggest they read this... http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2010/08/10/2063739/aston-villa-players-celebrate-martin-oneills-exit-by-texting Puts things a little bit more into perspective and I am not so sure he would be good for the team at this moment in time particularly.