Saint Fan CaM

No! Thug that beats up women and is not a particularly good footballer.

For the issues you have raised above... a. Yes, I empathise with those not able to use the installment plan. I used it when it was available, but I planned ahead so that my affairs were under my control. A plan B if you like. So while I might empathise, I certainly do not sympathise. b. No, I do not empathise with regard to a pre-season tour - the club has done nothing to stop anyone going along. The club has never provided the means to any supporter as far as I am aware of getting to pre-season matches abroad. It is a personal choice to arrange and to go. So I repeat, what is there to empathise with? Having said all that, this thread was about the supposed changing of names of the hospitality suites and what a dreadful issue this was. And again I repeat, what exactly is the problem? IMO there is no problem - to anyone - except perhaps the celebs who have had a good innings making money from their association with the club. I CAN empathise if the club feels now is a good time to move on and change the status quo. Big picture and all that good stuff.

Sorry Stu - don't agree. A lack of empathy would require me to understand and agree that there is a problem. I don't, so there is no lack of empathy - I simply do not see what the problem is to me or any other supporter. Unless it's someone trying to score personal points or has some fanatical reason for wanting the forum to be a depressing and negative place.

If you could explain how changing the names of some rooms at SMS affects you personally, then I might reconsider. Until then my view is not lack of empathy - it's more aligned to pity and exasperation at the overload of negativity you are inflicting on the forum TBF.

Good shout that.

Ah, some sense. Good post.

Can we just try to get his thread to 134 pages please? I mean we really need the diversion and this subject is so vital that if we don't reach that many pages, I really don't think we'll have given it enough thought and exposure. So with that in mind please feel free to abuse me as that will add to the thread posts. You don't need to worry about presenting any viable problem or issue - just get that post count up. It really is a serious matter that needs debating.

I like your methodology, but to be fair the answer has not really changed anything. So yeah, agree.

Oh come on, do you really expect anyone to believe the truth?!?! This is clearly an outrage against every single Saints fan dead and alive. It's going to have a huge impact on ticket sales now and it will obviously mean hordes of fans making the trip down the M27 to Farton Park take advantage of the excellent facilities there. Seriously, this is just goes to show what a terrible, terrible businessman NC is and how much he really undervalues his customers. Some might say that naming dining areas in the Stadium is not REALLY important and that concentrating on the football on the pitch is of paramount interest, but they're mongs for thinking that. We have a long history of ensuring the matchday experience includes all the niceties and trimmings because that's what's really important - even Mr Lowe got that right. Future players like Rickie will want away now they know a suite will not bear their name! We need to organise a big rally and march to SMS as one to show how hacked off so many fans are at this travesty! Who's with me? (OK, you don't have to answer that)

Amazing to see Pulis still there alongside the football players.

Alpines sentiments are OK in that timing of squad enhancements in relation to a strong start to the season is important. The timing is though somewhat of an over-reaction given there is a good week before training camp. Having said that, with Papa, Antonio, Semi, Connolly and James not replaced yet, the strength of last seasons 1st team has been dented. And bringing in Dickson has not really addressed these positions. There are a number of young players listed by Saints in the squad that appear to be wanting 1st team football - my hope is that NC is not telling AP that he has to work with these players to make up the numbers and gain auto because I do not think they are strong enough. Central midfield is extremely weak if one or more of Spiderman or Hammond are out. So yeah, there are concerns, but it's much too early to start worrying about no action just yet.

Well one probably had the personal finance to be in the same circles. The other just happened to have worked in the same industry sector. Both plausible reasons, however I feel there is only one who would truly have handed over power for the good of the club and that was not Lowe. Evidence? If it was Lowe, why did he wait until AFTER the deadline before putting the club into admin?

First post eh? Sounds like you might know something we don't? Why would today be a 'busy day' - why not tomorrow, afterall tomorrow's Friday!

Of course it was said tongue in cheek slightly, but thought a bit of reverse physcology might do the trick and prompt the club to release some news. Some missed the point, but hey ho. Anyway, heard on Solent this morning that there is a complete lock-down at Staplewood with no media presence whatsoever allowed in - not even Solent. Now then, either someone is over-reacting a bit, or there's one or more secret new signings starting training with the squad. Your guess is as good as mine.

Was supposed to be going to Wigan. Did the permit paperwork hit a snag? Shouldn't be a problem. http://www.wigan.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=177224 Bit more... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Palacios

You were doing so well until you mentioned that bit...

I did say some!

I think perhaps we all feel that way a little bit because for a number reasons things are a bit slow on the news front. This is just the way of NC it seems - he prefers to ensure Saints lead the way on positive Saints news - fair play I say. It is clear that there is work on-going at SMS to revitalise the stadium. I feel sure there are or will be soon new players coming in - we couldn't compete without them. It's July 1st tomorrow and the players start pre-season next week, so in the next week or two, we'll start to hear about a few things and I predict some of the negativity on the forum will start to evaporate.

Surely this is the key bit...if you know KD personally or know someone close to him then fair play, otherwise it could be said that it is general knowledge that he has aspirations to play in the Prem with Saints as an integral part of the 5 year plan. Bart could feasibly ride on KD's coat-tails earning and learning all the way to the Prem.

Simply because he is Club Captain and a senior member of the football squad, so while there's nothing obvious clearly, my feeling is keeping these types of guys on board is an important factor in the upward push. If the likes of Davis can be tempted away, then perhaps the 5 year plan might be threatened? Seems perfectly reasonably to me.

Someone involved with the website has been caught with his/her pants down. Hate to come across negative, but that's not particularly impressive from a company aiming to be world-class TBF.

Rats - sorry, didn't see this.... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?23503-Stay-in-touch Feel free to delete Mods.

Anyone else had problems using the 'datacleanse' section of the OS? Even the error reporting page returned an error for me! I have contacted the club and if I hear anything I'll post the info here.

I would rather keep KD to be honest.

It think Terry had something to do with the spirit in the camp for certain. Why did he feel the need to conduct a press conference which he subsequently apologised for? Another example of poor discipline or a lack of desire to adopt the Managers regime (whatever that was). IMO Terry should never play for England again - almost tantamount to treason! Henri was summoned in front of the French President to explain the squad's poor show - why shouldn't Terry be held responsible as the original captain and instigator of the start of squad unrest? He should be banned from playing in the Prem too! We hear the arguement that there was a lot of individual talent in the squad but no team. Now I am struggling to think of one player that exhibited a significant show of individual talent to be fair, but for me the responsibility to bond and gel the team with solid tactics etc etc. lies directly and squarely with the manager. Capello has failed significantly in his job and there is clear evidence of that.