Legod Third Coming

What's changed? Did MLT win the Lotto?????

Never heard of Kevin McCabe then...

Totally. If it was inevitable, someone should have had the fecking gumption to get on with it.

It's irrelevant. You didn't hear Wollies administrators saying we should save the business because there are people who won't have anywhere to go for their cotton reels and pick'n'mix...

An administrator has NO duty to fans, not second, not anywhere. Unless the club owes us money and last time I checked it didn't owe me anything, well apart from the fecking chancers on the pitch...

£15m for a League Two club?? Which is where we'll realistically be in 12 months. Yeah, bargain... :S

Payroll normally takes two/three days to go through a bank, so this didn't come as a shock to anyone in the know today, sadly...

Whatever you think about John (GM) he was right about Wilde not having a pot to p!ss in, so why do people think he's wrong now? Desperation, that's why.

When it seemed KK might be here, my mood was ecstatic. Today, apathetic, tomorrow - off football for good if this nonsense isn't settled. You?

Renegotiate rights to the league, create a collective bargaining agreement with the Premiership for player sales/purchases, work with the FA and Premier League to better balance the distribution of international rights sales, pressure the FA for more income from international competitions, refuse to participate in the FA Cup until the balance of income is weighted better in favour of the small clubs participating.... who knows, there are hundreds of ideas far better than mine for better redisistrubition of the money in the game. Even capitalists understand that the more income you generate, the more tax you pay to support those less well off. Yes, trying to fix the finance in football now is like trying to put the genie back in the bottle - Bosman and the Premier League have seen to that. But that does not mean you have to throw up your hands and simply accept the status quo. What I object to is not that businesses fail - they do, that's life. But the penalty is applied to the incumbent buyer and those responisble walk scot-free. That's not right and fair. The treatment of SFC is nothing to the disgraceful treatment of Luton. We know turkeys do not vote for Christmas, so a responsible league must sometimes impose conditions on its members.

Plays(ed) for Wingate and Finchley...

Introduce a wage cap. Next?

Thank you. What sort of club can preside over a membership that is being decimated by debt and claim to act in the best interests of all concerned by simply penalising those who cannot contend with the financial demands placed upon them by the governance and competitive framework within which thay are asked to compete!!! Football is bust - the whole of football. Even supposedly wealthy clubs are millions, no BILLIONS, in debt. Even Wigan owe Dave Whelan hundreds of millions in reality. This is a totally unsustainable model. But then British Airways will be bankrupt soon so I guess who cares will be the League's attitude...

I don't normally swear or abuse people on this site, but you are a f u c k i n g idiot. How did what happened to Leeds prevent: Rotherham Darlington Stockport Luton Bournemouth Southampton getting into trouble?? It didn't. What have the league (and moreover the FA) done??? Pushed clubs into foriegn ownership or massive indebtedness by completely and utterly fecking up the distribution of wealth within the game. These rules have really served up financial prudence haven't they?? Clubs are in MORE debt now than ever before and what has found them out is the withdrawal of credit. But rather than look to their own inability to secure adequate funding for the game, the league kick the fans - who have paid millions into the game in the balls. Go boil your head, it's all it's good for.

It's not a few days is it? We have been a poor football team for two years. We have a little over six weeks to kick off a season where we start 10 points adrift. If this was my business, I would have been rebuilding for the ten-twelve weeks I've had at my disposal not six. It may be a long journey, but when every other team in the league starts ten points in hand and a fortnight fitter, you really are stacking the odds heavily in everyone else's favour... In sport, it's these things that make massive differences to how a team starts a campaign. Start badly and we'll be rebuilding from League Two. Urgency never hurt anyone in football or business.

While I hate the league and their failure to ensure adequate funding for clubs through their mismanagement or rights and inability to create an effective cost-cap.... We are losing valuable time - far too precious a resource to waste. There are but a few weeks until our first game of the season. We have no owners, no manager and above all no plan. Time is ticking. Without a ten point penalty, losing this time would be a waste. With a ten point penalty, we are simply giving all those other clubs a head start that could be fatal.

I think it's more the right of appeal which the more moderate voices object to being removed. I see where the league are coming from with regards to the choice which Steve outlines above - drop down or take it on the chin. But I despair that when well-run clubs like Norwich, Charlton and we are up the creek, no-one raises an eyelid and starts the process of wondering why. I also think Moorewhiney is an absolute c o c k which doesn't help. He seems to revel in the politics but is a hopeless salesman for his product...

I agree, if clubs running up huge debts which they cannot service were the issue. It isn't though, it has become an absolute necessity in order to compete. Even those clubs who apear solvent - like Wigan or Hull - are actually hugely indebted to individuals. The league is unsustainable because finances are scewed across the board. The FA lose Setanta and imediately simply put their rights back up for sale... er what about the hundreds of thousands who have PAID for the rights to watch those games??? They care not one iota. Football is eating itself and noone cares. If ever there were a need for a rethink it's now. The league should not be crippling struggling clubs with sanctions but asking WHY so many clubs are struggling. For every one who admits they're in trouble, ten are just burying the issue and hoping for the best... A year later and Coventry would never have found SISU. ALL the potential funding for clubs has dried up quicker than an Iranian wadi.

If you ran a club paid for by your members and one by one they started to die or become gravely ill and you were responsible for their well-being, would you kick them in the nuts? Me neither. But this is the role the League have created for themselves. They should be working with ALL members to ensure financial stability and longevity of football clubs, surely to God. And this is irrespective of our plight - this is the crisis facing league clubs which the league appear totally oblivious too.

The problem is that turkeys don't vote for Christmas. All the other Chairman will be saying 'good, one less club to compete against', until it happens to THEM! And the sooner some big clubs go to the wall the better for all of football.

Er, we know we were wrong so sign up to a deal to become a member where you refuse to appeal a judgement that we know or suspect was wrong... Or, chances are you probably did play by the rules, so just in case, to prop up our dodgy position, waive your right to a fair trial. You're wrong it is the Khmer rRuge, or The Crucible, or Stalin's Mother Russia - take your pick!

No, where did I say that? A business, run by business people went tits up. Who is being punished - the customer! Who should be punished...

If the rules exist to prevent a parent company from being placed into administration to save a football club, then the rules should state that quite clearly, categorically and with no room for misinterpretation. In all walks of life, people will make decisions based on the laws as they are understood by those having to abide by them. It is not acceptable to apply laws differently under different circumstances, or to change the interpretation of them. I understand what you're saying about Leeds and Luton. However, the time has come for this farce to stop. People might hate Leeds, but we all know that it is their fans and Luton fans who are punished, NOT those responsible. Same for Rotherham and Bournemouth. The current hypocricy in football DEMANDS that we protest to make changes. Not because it's us, but because it's not right. I feel for Luton fans - a club I can't stand! I felt more strongly for them than I do about our case. Their treatment was absolutely shocking. Where is the parity, equity and justness when one football club in one league can be bust and yet another which abides by the stated rules can be penalised?? This is not about us, this is about football's governers and their need to sit down and re-appraise football finances. The game is living on debt. Why should I pay for Rupert Lowe's failure (any board). Why is that fair and just? And if you think it's about status quo, you're wrong. Watch the FIA change their rules like a shot when the major players start to demand change... Our problem is we are not a major player. But FANS have voices and they should be heard.

Would you accept a state that operated this way? If there are rules, you obey them. If you are found guilty of breaking them, you have the right to appeal if you think you haven't. If there are disagreement, there is a court for the arbitration of sport or a High Court or the Law Lords. Your attitude is incredulous when you consider the livelihoods and incomes involved. The league is NOTHING without its members. What if Luton fans could have saved their club from being effectively expelled from the league? This is not a fight about Southampton doing 'right or wrong' This is a fight about everyone's right to a fair trial and the application of the governing body's code of regulations. What if we put SLH into adminstration BECAUSE we believed it was within our right and best for the club to avoid a penalty? And had the rules been written a different way we would not have done so? Is this a black and white case then?

If there are rules and we abided by them, it matters not one hoot whether it was a technicality or not. If you obey the rules, you shouldn't get punished. If you break the rules you should. If the rules are wrong that is not the fault of those obeying them.