Legod Third Coming

Yes, but if it's give up some and prolong earnings power, give up none and see the business go bust quicker, it's a decision millions have been faced with and chosen the former option. And those people in the real world have simply taken a cut to help save their employers - not even a deferral. It says everything we need to about professional footballers and the modern world today that there are even people defending their actions...

So, you would rather the business went bust and you had no job at all? Nice work. These footballers need to remember that they are not immune from the recession. Many have performed badly, their value has gone down. So yes, Euell can have 15k a week and bankrupt SFC. Then he'll be lucky to get 5k somewhere else... Conversely, some will get jobs more easily and probably at higher wages in which case they were going anyway and probably don't give a stuff. Either way, I'd like to know how well they sleep in their executive homes knowing that pensioners are chucking money in a bucket to keep them in Bollinger... And ultimately, that is a decision about whether you are a MAN and not about your employment status.

The difference is the key. Strachan had been proven in the role, had built a good squad and was flying. The players you list were bought by different people at different times and amid total managerial and squad turmoil! And for the record without Stern John we would have been relegated twelve months ago, which rather underlines why you do need to invest in the squad!! But only under the guidance of the manager. Chairman should facilitate their managers to build a squad. Failure to invest in the playing staff after the cup final is one thing. Failing to back your manager and retain him after such a successful spell is suicidal.

Totally. Even if we HAD to loan out the big earners, we didn't have to jettison common sense into the bargain. And anyone with half a brain could work out that losing teams are watched by smaller crowds than winning ones! But no, good old Rupert had a letter from his mother and a glowing endorsement from a bloke who missed an open goal that the former could have scored with her eyes shut...

Er, me. Thirty years and about £30 grand I reckon. Anyone else???

Er, how about the workers of: Honda Toyota Jaguar Land Rover Nissan Thousands of component manufacturers Thousands of upholstery manufacturers Thousands of rivet makers Thousands of steel makers And the other million or more workes who have taken a pay cut to save their jobs. If the choice is no job or a wage cut, millions and millions the world over chose the latter. But because someone agreed to pay Euell 15k a week to play like a ballerina with a broken toe it's ok for him to collect??? You need a reality check mate.

A Sauterne I would suggest

It is a reflection on our club and the country at large. £6000 for a cleaner, I ask you. snouts the lot of 'em.

Oh do let's give this a rest. We could have played Iniesta in our line-up and he wouldn't have scored the way we were p!ssing about with the ball. We were undone not by a banker but something very similar sounding who appointed Coco the Amsterdam Clown, loaned out all our best players and then set about upsetting every right-thinking fan this side of Pluto... Barclays just happened to be in the wrong place and funding a business run by a cretin.

Even if he paid a market price - which I am led to believe he claims to have done?

Don't think that's far off. Administration is basically the bank/lenders calling in someone to run the business because the current management can't! Some businesses can be in administration for ages simply because the lenders want it to be run until it can be sold. However, he doesn't have to sell it 'as is' - he can sell any of the assets along the way. So in our case, he could sell a farm to keep the rest of the business running, for example.

Quite but 2.5k easily. Probably around 5ish I would have thought. 3/4 hours of a partner at £400 an hour, 7 of junior at £300 - it soon adds up...

Well, a Director of Deloittes (Insolvency specialist - ie. an Administrator) I know well lives in a six bedroom pad in a little village, drives a Rangie Sport, skis twice a year, goes on holiday two further times, has three kids in private education and a wife who doesn't work. You know, handsome .... A partner? Write your own cheque.

I don't think the administrator takes a commission on the sale. His job is to run our company and look for a buyer. For that he will be (what we consider) handsomely rewarded. Administrators charge high fees because they are, and have to be, skilled at what they do. There are perks, sure. I well remember an administrator acquiring a very nice car from a business that went bust because he wanted it and was able to buy it off the company - justifying the decision because the cost (time) of selling it on the open market would could have been significant - so he saved his own time! But his job, is to run our business for the creditors and achieve the maximum return for them, nothing more, nothing less.

We could simply rekindle those where someone was proved right, but sadly that might give prominence to our Austrian friends...

I cannot conceive that there are people who believe that Lowe's mad Dutch experiment was the only option this season. Are people really that barmy? What about the other 91 clubs who operate on the basis of appointing a manager (shock horror sometimes with expertise and experience of English football) and allowing him to work within whatever budget constraints there are? But no, the only solution was to pay the single most important person at the club 60k - about, what, 10k more than the bloke who runs the fecking ticket office?? (No disrespect Dave). What total boll0x - no worse - complete insanity. The kind that should result in being committed.

But surely the £10-£15m Winter refers to means writing off all or a significant proportion of the debt?? Had you had to buy the shares, you would then also have to honour ALL the club's debt. So are you comparing like with like?

Whether the points deduction is right and proper for us, the Football League is a joke organisation that, together with the FA, has overseen a ridiculous rise in the debt of ALL football clubs - specifically those at the top end, yet espouses/d prudence and operating within 'normal sensible' business parameters. They would rather a gun-runner bought a club and propped it up (even temporarily) than evaluate the whole business they have mismanaged and bring it back in the realms of reality. If the Glazers go bust and Manchester United go bust it will be interesting to see how 'football responds'... In their deals with Sky (who in my opinion are blameless) the FA and League neglected to sell the milk with the cream - leaving Sky laughing at their ineptitude and creating (along with the Bosman ruling) a model of financial support that gives all the cash to those who need it least. Put it another way, if the League were the government, the health and welfare benefits would be reserved for those earning £150k plus - and to hell with the rest of us

I would keep him as club captain but take the pitch captaincy off him - sorry but hate keepers as captains.

No names no pack drills.... eidelweiss, eidelweiss, bless my homeland forever....

Lol - last of the great soothsayers...

Those who do not study history are destined forever to repeat the mistakes of the past... Just ask Hitler how his war on the Russian front went, the same way as Napoleon's...

To bump into one can be considered lucky, two coincidence, but three is called looking!!!!

And Andy. WE must support the choice and give them sufficient time to prove themselves, but also against a need to be promoted in year one!!!

You come into the Rednapp category. He says "This game is all about players" - but clearly it isn't becuase the same players did feck all under Ramos... Which shows that old saggy chops can manage - however much we might want to believe otherwise... I keep thinking of Greece and Denmark in the Euros and Porto winning the Champions League. If it was all about players none of those things would have happened - oh and Chelsea would be winning the league. But they're not - Alex is.