Smirking_Saint

Huddersfield away 2-0 win Lambert & Schniederlin

Lol The mess that was inherited by ANY government that won the election makes the cuts necessary. If you have not noticed the control was brought to its knees by Brown and now the pain starts, this just makes the current BA strike so much more laughable really, what exactly are they actually striking for ?? Great post by Gemmel earlier, this will change the face of the union forever, the union is something i agree with in many cases, however this is completely different.

In that case

They really are awesome, from what i saw saturday they were better than Avatar 3d in the cinema

I am in the Sky Sports and the Fifa one, should be good.

Yeah i agree that is the other thing that needs to come down, i never realised that the charge points you still had to leave your car plugged in for hours.

TBH i probably wont purchase one until the prices drop to around the 1k mark, i do agree 2k is a bit much in all honesty. At the moment you need to wear those stupid glasses to watch it aswell but they really are impressive, i never thought i would be as impressed as i was.

Been looking into these for a while now, the technology is still a little out of reach for me to buy one but beginning to be very interesting for me. If the overall range and size of vehicles (i need to transport kit etc) increases then this is something i am seriously looking at. It is a shame that the performance statistics are not that great but TBH this day and age i can't get the best out of a car anyway. Can anyone else see themselves making the transition in a few years if costs come down ??

Went into best buy yesterday for a look around, it seems a good shop with a few great little gadgets in there and i booked a test drive in the electric car so i could see if it drives any different. I did wander over to the 3d TV's however to have a look at what all the fuss was about, and i must admit i was blown away !! Has anyone else seen them yet ?? They are fantastic, and i am now scrabbling around to find 2k to purchase one. That said though i may wait a few months until they develop the TV's that do not need the glasses. Has anyone else seen them yet ??

Console snobbery is a bit gay really, and to be honest the online modes for both aren't a lot different. I, and nobody i know, have ever had any problems playing ps3 online, what exactly do you get for paying the extra on 360 ?? Add to that the 'hidden' costs of bringing the xbox up to the same level as the ps3 and you will find the xbox is actually more expensive !! I am also looking forward to sony releasing the 3d firmware update in a few weeks, something microsoft is not looking at.

And i'm off to the aquarium to meet my mates and talk about gills

Tedious

And you cant work out my answer from my earlier post ?

Like i said before to Dune, if we are playing like a club like chelsea and winning trophies then i have no problem paying those prices, i would imagine that the majority of the fan base do also. I do agree with what you are saying about the fans charter and also the fact that they should have warned about the payment scheme removal. I don't agree that the price rise was unexpected though, league 1 or not we have spent a lot of money and should challenge for the title easily this season. We also all want to have a sound and sustainable club so not to fall back to where we were, if this is what it takes so be it, unfortunately mate you need to be careful with the hypocritical angle, as in one breath wanting a sustainable club and now saying that the methods of getting one are not wanted is....in essance....hypocritical. Normally mate, i do agree with you and normally i have a lot of respect for what Chez posts, atm though i think a lot of what you are posting is wrong, should NC have warned us yes, but no he has no commitment to providing affordable ST's and Chez being pedantic etc towards what is my opinion in an opinionated thread is just pathetic really, but on this occasion i will put it down to heated emotions.

Tbf i was trying to make a reasoned arguement there really was no need to be pedantic

Ok then Stu, Email Luker with the information you have found and ask why they have not looked into Zebra finance then ?? See what he says ?? Why not, you have nothing to lose, just post the response here so we all know once and for all.

Playing in European finals ?? The best players ? A great stadium ?? Premiership contenders ?? FA Cup/League cup finals ?? Noone wants that do they

But to be completely fair to both sides, you have only researched one club credit facility in Zebra finance, you don't know for sure the club is telling porkies !

Not really, the club has no committment to give affordable payment schemes to fans for a premium product. There is a reason why there are risk management positions at major banks etc, that is because some people cannot afford the repayments when previous financial history and affordability is calculated. So why is the club committed to providing what is essentially a credit facility to people that would not qualify for one on the world market ? :smt102

Stu, well done mate for going away and doing the research, fair play to you, most just open their mouths without doing any form of research whatsoever. The problem i see on here is that many believe it is their god given right to recieve a payment option for a product that they cannot actually afford. This is not the case at all. It is the clubs seat and the clubs ticket to sell, they have released competetive rates for this service and are obviously trying to make the club self-sustainable in relation to our ambitions, this i applaud. I appreciate that the club made a mistake in not pre-warning many fans on the fact that the scheme was being scrapped however that is the issue and nothing more. As fans we have no devine right for the ST's to be made affordable to all, no premium product in the world is like that really. If there is a product that is over the monthly disposeable then means need to be sourced in order to afford that, either through saving, or loans or CC's. That decision is to be made by the consumer, not the company providing the product. If it cannot be afforded then so be it. As for the majority of the fanbase not being able to afford it OR be able to get a decent financial option to help with payments that just doesn't have any basis in reality. I would say there was a very small amount of fans that cannot do either, and if that is the case then, unfortunately they need to accept that they cannot afford the product and learn for next year. The problem being that as fans we know that the ST's need to be purchased around this time every year, and so why were they not saving for it ?? The answer is that there was a wrong assumption that a payment scheme would be provided, now i agree that the club is in the wrong by not putting a warning out but it cannot be held responsible for what is inadequate financial planning. Conclusion - Get over it, learn for next year and don't assume things, if a ST cannot be afforded this year go game for game and save some per month for next year. Don't be taken in by the conspiracy theorists, it just is not true.

The club does not have to offer a payment scheme, it does not have to run a payment scheme. The club offers a service that you either can or can't afford or pay for. It is YOUR choice whether or not to pay for this service and whether or not the service can be justified. It is not YOUR seat, it is not YOUR ticket, it is the clubs. You have the option of leasing this seat off of them for a season if you can afford it. There is a lot in life i would like to buy, however do i p*ss and moan if the company does not make it affordable to me ?? No, i decide i cannot justify it or find a way to pay for it myself, such as a loan or CC or saving. I agree Darren W your post is well thought out and written but a lot of fans are currently acting like spoilt brats at the moment, we have a chance to play attractive football, spend money on new exciting players and move back towards the Prem, yet many are p*ssed off about an extra few quid. I agree the club seriously should have warned if the payment plan was being scrapped but it in no way HAS to provide that service. It is not your ticket/seat until it is paid for.

Great post Cam

hth

Honestly though, what is the point of taking this thread on and on through the pages ?? It is obvious that this action has caused a large portion of the fanbase (well at least the forum posting one) some aggro. Why don't we all write to Luker/NC, not ****ing and moaning but explaining that it could have a negative effect and has caused friction and see what transpires ??