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Does it confuse you PFC claiming to do things that they can't? Thought you'd be well used to that by now

That report nicely ignores the key point. The FL asked for the statement saying that there would be no points deductions be removed The report (in the side comment) suggests that todays meeting makes it more likely there will be no points deductions 2 + 2 = 5

One of those modifications had better be the removal of that line about no further points deductions by the FL is the CVA is carried

Great. Let's all go and turn £140m debt into £0.5m (before expenses). For f*cks sake. I hope there's a wacking great points penalty coming for the failure of the first CVA W*nkers

I suspect that's exactly what it is. The same as they did with us. Accept our terms or you're out. Simple as.

I love threads like this. Gets people talking without bickering and it's all football, no politics (not that I mind those but they always descend into slagging off sessions and negativity) Need a thoughtful smiley thingy

Not sure about Grob on the bench - He might except a few quid to throw one in!

Never been a fan of Fernandes - Can we do better on that side of midfield? Other than that, the first 11 is looking good Not sure about Bart on the bench. How about Katalinic?

Niemi XXXXXX Lundekvam/Monkou Killer Golac/Bale XXXXXX Svensson Kachloul Le Tissier Ekelund Pahars Updated

Patrick Colleter at right back???

So far.... Niemi XXXXXX Lundekvam Killer Golac XXXXXX Svensson XXXXXX Le Tissier Ekelund Pahars Any movememnt on that

Le Tiss has got to be the one English player, or can we have him as foreign being from those little French (!) islands?

Ekelund up front or attacking midfield

Who the f*ck is laughing now

But of course, they're not a club member anymore, which makes all the difference The PL hate them for the negativity they brought down on their priceless brand a couple of years ago

Did they beat 71 other clubs? I thought that there were 5 winners?

I don't think you can ever say a Chairman is out of order for not automatically approving a deal that he had no part in or no knowledge of. It could have been that Hoddle had a better player lined up but the total funds for the incoming transfer/increased wages/agent/etc required was nearer £4m and so RL was simply trying to balance the books. We only know SJ's side of the story and not the RL/GH version. There is bound to be more to it from the SFC perspective

One thing you can be 100% sure of is that the Agents representing the players in question know exactly what the score is and will be advising their client accordingly. They will get maximum payoff any which way. No amount of bull**** spouting by the Administrators will change that

As transfers involve Agents I doubt any Code Of Conduct would be worth the paper it's written on! Plenty in SJ's book about having to deal with them too, including how willingly they'll stitch up their own player to earn a bit more themselves

Difficult situation if your Manager has agreed a deal without your approval though, particularly if you think the 'asset' is worth way more than the agreed sale price and the buyer has recently come into a lot of money. Perhaps he should have gone straight to £3.5m? Or perhaps RL just didn't want to sell and was trying to put SJ off?

There's an interesting passage in Simon Jordan's book, 'Be Careful What You Wish For' He says that his then Manager, Alan Smith, wanted to sign James Beattie when Glenn Hoddle was our Manager. A fee was agreed between Jordan and Hoddle of £1.5m, but then Rupert Lowe got involved (claiming Hoddle had changed his mind) and subsequently raised the fee by £500,000 to £2m. Jordan says he agreed to £2m but the then Lowe raised it to £2.5m and the process was repeated until Lowe asked for £3.5m and then Jordan told him where to go and turned his attention to Dougie Freeman instead. What are peoples thoughts on this? For me Beatts was always worth way more than £1.5m so fair play. As for the book, I'm not a fan of the 'closed club' of football establishment so I've always quite liked (or at least not disliked) Simon Jordan for his out-spoken views. He pulls no punches on players, agents and managers, and goes to town on how little they all care as long as they get paid. If you don't like Simon Jordan, it'll probably only reinforce what you thought of him before. Worth a read if you're interested. ---- Edit - I also read Alan Sugar's autobiography a while ago and the similarities between their experiences of owning Tottenham and Crystal Palace are astounding. The bottom line is you'd have to be completely mad to even consider it. You get continually abused and everybody hates you. Totally thankless no matter how much you spend. Amazing that they both have exactly the same view when you consider that one of them made a fortune in the process and the other lost one!

The sums were a zillion times smaller back then though

Certainly no chance of them being able to re-form within the upper league structure if they leave football creditors out of pocket That's the ultimate offense in the eyes of the FL

So if it is liquidation, do the players get nothing? I thought the remaining contracts were covered by the PFA or FL or someone...

It'll be on an italian terrestrial station. You'll just have to put up with funny commentary