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How are they going to move up 2 divisions from Conference South to L2 in one year? And that's ignoring that it's already too late to enter a phoenix club into any league for this year. The level of self interest is quite staggering. Some non-league team is supposed to give up their place and accept relegation or fold, so the bestest can put their team straight into a new league at 10 minutes notice

Good post, but we need an answer. I know a number of hard working intelligent couples who don't and won't have any kids. The wrong people are having kids and there is no way for society to improve (or even recover) in the long term

Why should they be in panic mode? They've all made it clear that they would rather have the FA Cup win and the european experience followed by bankruptcy rather than a solvent club Fools

The parachute payments are for exactly this purpose Why should the people who are entitled to them (wrongly or rightly), those with contracts with the club, forego their 'entitlement' So that someone else can dictate how much money he wants to not shut them down (baloo), with no special entitlement I'm sure our webbed feet friends will be great at arguing why they are entitled to their benefits. Maybe they ought to give them up and let the club have them instead? This country has fallen big time into an 'entitlement' society. You can't pick and choose when it is applied. Anyway.... don't want to get preachy.... Just shut them down ffs

You get benefits for the first 2 kids and no more, that would make some difference As for keeping them in school rather than ignoring them playing truant, that needs an answer urgently but god knows what it is

I agree with Wes

Of course they do. The views are embarrassing

Appy says it needs to be a bit more give and take, rather than as it currently is, which 'All give and all take'. Well Appy, your sentiment is correct only you've got it the wrong way around. You want the players to give up their entitlement despite it being their last contract in some cases In fact the players have been the ones that are giving (wages deferrals for the last 6 months) and the club have been taking it all and giving F*ck All You really have slotted into the PFC model of delusion particularly well f*ckwit

Funny how a guy can be put away for a drunken racist jibe but this fella will get away with that comment no problem

I think that was very limited english. As in amazing or unbelievable rather than crazy. At least.... I hope that was what it was!

The club absolutely should add the costs that it has to carry from third party sellers, postage, etc (Not that our supporters accept that willingly though!)

The FL won't ratify his playing registration so Gibralter will be the limit of his playing aspirations for the time being

You can't recall a player from a year long loan, but I think the other side can terminate (or send back if long-term injured). Not sure why they'd bother though because I expect we are paying 100% of his wages as part of the deal

Oh that's just cruel Take their keeper and give them TF Is NC an Evil Genius?

I would hope we could sneak a point off the last 5 on your list too, particularly at home .....and last season the first 3 all lost to low opposition at some point

12/13 or 13/1?

You'd think so wouldn't you.....

Yep absolutely Nobody wants to be replaced by someone else (a better model!), whatever it is they're doing

You'd hope the existing players would see it as a challenge and try to up there game..... But I suspect that a fair few cases they go into sulk mode Must be something they're used to though. It's the ones that play regularly in the Championship and then get replaced in the PL (or worse sold back to a Champ team) that I feel (a little) sorry for

Don't worry about it. I think the point is sufficiently apt that it's worth making it twice

Also refers to 'would have liked to have got a few more in, but have to be patient', so further efforts are being made

Happy, smiley, unassuming. Seems like a very nice grounded fella Welcome aboard the bus boat Nat

David - It's not so much the question as the answer I was trying to use a really clear set of very limited circumstances to show that there is in fact no right answer (without the benefit of hindsight). There is no correct option of the 3 given, and that's before factoring in the other million factors (selling clubs, fees, contracts, third parties, wags, lies, etc) As I said before, fans expectations on signings make the club damned is they do and damned if they don't

Not a bizarre thread at all. Just pointing out the obvious really because some people seem oblivious to how f*cking difficult it is to get in the players you want, let alone to get it all done by the end of June. I know there is a degree of trolling and hunting for a reaction going on by some but I also think (very scarily) that some people on here genuinely believe that we should have completed (or at least got a lot further with) our transfer business by now and signed all top notch players. You know, the ones that every club wants to buy and their current clubs don't want to let go. I didn't expect many people to actually pick a target from the list of 3 (I also didn't expect someone to mock the question by adding a list of 3 further targets because that missed the point. There aren't just another 3 options, there are 1,000,003 other options). I think the point is made and as you can tell there will be some that refuse to see that point. Tomorrow (whether Clyne completes or not, they'll be blustering again about the lack of a CB of a GK) Mods - This thread can be closed now

I also think we should hold out for Target 1, and show a little faith in the players that got us promoted and the kids coming through in the meantime Judging by the quantity (and quality) of our signings to date this summer I think NC and NA think this way too